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Thread: Media Firearms beat-up continues

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    Guys we all have fervent and passionate viewpoints on the subject matter in this thread and I support everyone's right to have their personal view but we need to heed the warnings that are being given. By my count we are at two strikes and a ball. Jakewire I applaud your approach.
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    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage1 View Post
    The greatest tragedy in Mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion.
    Savage1 you may well have just coined one of the top fifty most well reasoned one line statements of all time without even intending to do so.
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    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis View Post
    So you reckon if we get rid of them, we won't have mass killings, or when we do, the shooter will kill people at a more acceptable rate, with something else?
    Yep, the ignorance on the anti-gun side beggars belief frankly, even the so called academics dont seem to accept the statistics. Just reading the anti-gun comments and I can see how clueless they are.

    Things like ban "assault weapons" yet most mass killings in the USA are with handguns. Which makes sense actually, easy to hide so you can get into the school un-noticed, and you dont want a "long ar15" when you walk into a class room. Surely you want a handgun (plus a spare in a holster) in each hand holding 15 rounds each or even one of those snail mags holding a shag load of rounds and just start blasting at 5metres.

    had an interesting "discussion" with some americans they were all for banning ARs but wanted to keep their handguns for their own self-defence. Yets when I pointed out most killings were with handguns (accidents, mass killings, self-defence etc) they just could not accept that they and their handguns were the biggest problem and the easiest fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steven View Post
    the easiest fix.
    No such thing when it comes to gun control in the USA.

    Even if you banned handguns today, you would still have 50-90 million in circulation. How many of those do you think would be voluntarily surrendered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    If you are doing your job properly you would sweep other members of your team countless times.
    I never gave it a second thought, it was a requirement.
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    What a load of horseshit.

    If you are sweeping your team mates while scanning your arcs, you doing it wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshogi View Post
    What a load of horseshit.

    If you are sweeping your team mates while scanning your arcs, you doing it wrong!
    I agree with what @R93 has said including the requirement to scan ones arcs which may or may not include a fellow patrol member.
    @Koshogi how would you do it? I would love to know the "proper" way as you clearly have a ton of experience...
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    Unless your fellow patrol members are ANA.....

    I'm glad you agree with R93, and think it's a good idea to point a loaded firearm at your comrades....

    If I need to tell you how NOT to point a firearm at somebody, I'm probably wasting my time.

    Ya, I've been on a patrol or two champ.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshogi View Post
    Unless your fellow patrol members are ANA.....

    I'm glad you agree with R93, and think it's a good idea to point a loaded firearm at your comrades....

    If I need to tell you how NOT to point a firearm at somebody, I'm probably wasting my time.

    Ya, I've been on a patrol or two champ.


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    Care to list you experience?

    I don't know what R93's experience is but from previous posts I gather he knows a thing or two and I rate his contributions quite highly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage1 View Post
    Care to list you experience?

    I don't know what R93's experience is but from previous posts I gather he knows a thing or two and I rate his contributions quite highly.
    I've listed my experience previously.

    I'm sure R93 is both experienced and highly qualified in the skill of arms.

    Experience doesn't always equate to competence (I'm not saying he is not competent. I just disagree with his opinion on this matter).

    Just think for yourself. Does the idea of pointing a loaded firearm at people sound like a smart idea?

    Just because it is taught in the military doesn't mean it's a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshogi View Post
    I've listed my experience previously.

    I'm sure R93 is both experienced and highly qualified in the skill of arms.

    Experience doesn't always equate to competence (I'm not saying he is not competent. I just disagree with his opinion on this matter).

    Just think for yourself. Does the idea of pointing a loaded firearm at people sound like a smart idea?

    Just because it is taught in the military doesn't mean it's a good thing.

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    Yes I have read your "Experience". I am just wondering how you would skin the cat so to speak? You did say that R93 is did/doing it "wrong"...

    Just remember that you are not the only one here that has had military experience so be careful how you word things in relation to a persons "competence".
    "Professionals are predictable but the world is full of dangerous amateurs"

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    Fuck hang on chaps I'll just grab another beer this is going to get good


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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshogi View Post
    What a load of horseshit.

    If you are sweeping your team mates while scanning your arcs, you doing it wrong!
    Fair enough😆 I must have been doing/taught wrong.

    I have been told that a few times when I was young and eager........mainly by women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    Fair enough I must have been doing/taught wrong.

    I have been told that a few times when I was young and eager........mainly by women.

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    I thought there was more than enough bait in the water to get a decent bite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwijames View Post
    I thought there was more than enough bait in the water to get a decent bite.
    Same, very controlled response though!!


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    Meh. I just woke up. On night shift.
    Having a brew with a couple ex diggers now and they were not favorable to the suggestion that it doesn't happen.
    But then again what would they know.


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