How about this one...
Sweeping generalisation not supported by available evidence, looks like an outlandish claim to me. It may be your opinion and you're entitled to that, but it will go down better if you don't try to present it as a fact.
How about this one...
Sweeping generalisation not supported by available evidence, looks like an outlandish claim to me. It may be your opinion and you're entitled to that, but it will go down better if you don't try to present it as a fact.
Ok so we have just taken up about 2 hours of our times, what else could you have done instead of arguing with me about my personal opinion ??
Actually the Military is trained to kill people with said firearms. Maybe they are the last ones who should own firearms in Civilian life?
Natatale please educate yourself and talk from a position of facts. The world is a lot bigger that just the US, Australia and UK. Many other Countries allow people to own semi auto firearms and have few incidents.
Unfortunately psychos will be psychos and kill people, some cultures seem too breed more than others.
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We will swallow a chill pill if you do.
@Natatale - thats better In my opinion you're wrong about that and having semi-auto rifles available to licenced owners does not significantly increase the risk of mass shootings.
PS it hasn't taken up 2hrs of my time because I just pop on for a few minutes, post and then go do something else. But it is far more interesting than washing the dishes.
What's this 'ideal world' rubbish?
These claims of yours are outlandish (just plain wrong):
Not EVERYBODY came to that realisation. Some more reasonable people would've figured out that ANY firearm is not safe in the hands of someone with serious mental health issues.
MSSAs are NOT made for 'war and killing en-mass' - they lack the full auto functionality of a modern military rifle.
NZ is a great place to lawfully use a semi-auto 7.62, or any other cal, MSSA or not. NZ DOES need them. The Police and the NZDF for obvious reasons. But if by 'NZ' you mean NZers, for private use, then there's plenty of useful stuff an individual doesn't NEED.
You keep changing the terminology you use. You've said MSSAs, semi-auto 7.62, semi-auto military type, and military rifles. They're different things, and there's different rules for each. Please clarify which type of firearm, or which set of features you have a problem with an A-cat FAL holder using.
We had a firearms register, it did nothing to solve or reduce crime, so it was binned. Same thing has been found in other countries, such as Canada. Evidence-based policy making. More govts should try it in more areas.
You are advocating for tighter rules, yet feel safer in NZ than Oz, with its more restrictive gun laws. Doesn't make sense.
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A load of the most contrived left leaning socialist tripe as big as any Ive seen from this rag! whose the gutless wonder author -another journalistic excuse with no spine for a shiver to run up I wouldnt insult my arse by wiping it with this peurile crap!this is the sort of rigged shit you get on the bastion of intellectual paddling pools -trademe message boards.
I could go on about the mass killings perpetrated in South Africa on a daily basis with handguns, semi-auto and select fire weapons of all types of calibres.
Does it stop citizens in that country from owning handguns, modern sporting rifles (i.e. semi-auto centrefire rifles)?
No.
Does it have any relevance to New Zealand?
No.
Should military experience count as some sort of prerequisite for owning a semi-automatic rifle?
No.
Not sure about mass shooting but the other week some bloke wearing pajamers walked into the police HQ, followed someone out and then shot them with a pistol. The fact that someone can get their hands on one of the most restricted weapons in one of the tightest gun control countries makes proves that the whole thing is pointless.
I find it odd that the very people who say our gun laws should be made tougher are the same people who expect the "heavily armed " police or army to protect them (or is that that they only protect "Important People", Politicians or "Wealthy People" and possibly not the "Sheeple")
With firearms there are NOT "Degrees of Dangerousness" depending on the type.
For example with a MSSA being a semi over 7 rounds capacity, can someone explain how the 8th shot is more "dangerous'er" than the 5th, 6th or 7th ones
You are either "fit and proper" or not.
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