Thread: Media Firearms beat-up continues

Originally Posted by Sideshow

Ok so you join a branch of the military do you get a firearms licence?
If you leave the military do you instantly get given a firearms licence or do you still need to sit one?
Now join the military and don't have vehicle licence?

Q1. No.
Q2. No.
Q3. If your trade requires a vehicle licence, the army will train you and get you your vehicle licence in the relevant vehicle class(es). The Army has its own LTSA certified instructors for this.

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Originally Posted by stretch

Q1. No.
Q2. No.
Q3. If your trade requires a vehicle licence, the army will train you and get you your vehicle licence in the relevant vehicle class(es). The Army has its own LTSA certified instructors for this.

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Yes already new the answer to this one.
But while in the forces how many times did you see dick next to you do something so stupid you thought bugger that could have been me us?!
Don't get me wrong here any body who serves to protect hats off in my book...but not all are trained the right way!
If you have been tought in one envorment dose not mean that you can't retrain for a new envroment.

Just to throw my 10c on the Military training discussion.

Not all military are fully trained in the art of war. All are trained during basic, but at a basic level. After that most would be lucky to fire their rifles more than a couple times a year, at the most.

Just because someone has "got some time up" it dosn't mean they are jungle fighting snipers that fly Wokkers, jumping out of C130's while firing their cruise missles. More than likely they are mechanic's, cooks, blanket counters etc that go to work just like Mr Civi

1/2 of them have to reminded that the sharp end is the bit that the bullets comes out of

Originally Posted by Sideshow

Ok so you join a branch of the military do you get a firearms licence?

Had a funny conversation with a cop mate at one stage about him being qualified to use handguns, AR15s etc on duty if necessary but couldn't go shooting in his own time as he didn't have a licence. Good bugger with his head on the right way, think I'd still trust him more than most people with a gun.

A very interesting thread, with some very divided opinions...

Doesn't matter what role you have. In the Army for example so many civilian safety rules are pointless and not practiced that I think teeth arms especially have a different approach to safety. And would go as far as saying they would come out of the service as complacent.
I did.
If you sweep someone with a pistol in ipsc you are likely DQ and considered a safety risk.

You could be firing it to cover a withdrawal toward someone running straight back at you in the military especially during training.

Dunno about now as it may have changed but certain members of a patrol would be locked and loaded with safety off and auto selected for weeks on end whilst moving. If you are doing your job properly you would sweep other members of your team countless times.
I never gave it a second thought, it was a requirement.

My point being, soldiers are not imo, going to automaticly have better safety standards than civilians that have high standards.



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Originally Posted by R93

If you are doing your job properly you would sweep other members of your team countless times.
I never gave it a second thought, it was a requirement.
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What a load of horseshit.

If you are sweeping your team mates while scanning your arcs, you doing it wrong!

Originally Posted by Koshogi

What a load of horseshit.

If you are sweeping your team mates while scanning your arcs, you doing it wrong!

I agree with what @R93 has said including the requirement to scan ones arcs which may or may not include a fellow patrol member.
@Koshogi how would you do it? I would love to know the "proper" way as you clearly have a ton of experience...

Originally Posted by Koshogi

What a load of horseshit.

If you are sweeping your team mates while scanning your arcs, you doing it wrong!

Fair enough😆 I must have been doing/taught wrong.

I have been told that a few times when I was young and eager........mainly by women.

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Originally Posted by R93

Fair enough I must have been doing/taught wrong.

I have been told that a few times when I was young and eager........mainly by women.

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I thought there was more than enough bait in the water to get a decent bite.

Originally Posted by kiwijames

I thought there was more than enough bait in the water to get a decent bite.

Same, very controlled response though!!


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"No politics or religion" - gosh I wonder why that rule came about

Getting back to the original idea of the thread - I'm curious as to whether this series of media releases will be sustained or will die out - I think that what works is to just smile and wave, provide facts where possible and not engage with the wingnuts - all of this will be forgotten in a few weeks

Hmm still not getting the point, don't care about military training, been there done that and I know what you are on about.
But how many of the wantabee shooters get hold of a sks and a 100 rounds and haven't a clue of ANY form of training, only 1 hour of a safety talk that got them their FAL.
I would love to see 1/2 a day on a range as part of the FAL process in place of the 1 hour safety talk. Surely that's got to help ???

Originally Posted by Natatale

Hmm still not getting the point, don't care about military training, been there done that and I know what you are on about.
But how many of the wantabee shooters get hold of a sks and a 100 rounds and haven't a clue of ANY form of training, only 1 hour of a safety talk that got them their FAL.
I would love to see 1/2 a day on a range as part of the FAL process in place of the 1 hour safety talk. Surely that's got to help ???

1) What difference does it make whether a "wannabe" shooter gets and sks, a jw15 or whatever?

2) Who is going to run this half a day on the range?

3) Whose range are you going to use? Some towns and rural areas have no range.

4) How is your half a day on the range going to stop people from shooting at each other in the field, when the range is nothing like the bush?

5) Who's going to pay for all this?

Originally Posted by Beavis

1) What difference does it make whether a "wannabe" shooter gets and sks, a jw15 or whatever?

2) Who is going to run this half a day on the range?

3) Whose range are you going to use? Some towns and rural areas have no range.

4) How is your half a day on the range going to stop people from shooting at each other in the field, when the range is nothing like the bush?

5) Who's going to pay for all this?

Australia.