Thread: More stupidity

What you lot fail to understand it seems is the cops have fuck all idea about the laws. You do realize it's illegal to leave a firearm in a vehicle, even a locked one. You are meant to take it with you. Cops are actively telling people to break the law by telling them to cover them and leave them in cars. WRONG. Very fucking wrong.
Hell, a lot of cops have no fucking idea about firearms themselves never mind the law that goes with it...

Then you get the dropkick townies that have decided they want to live out of the big cities or have a holiday house 'in the country, because we are fucking cocks'. They are the bane of my existence at the moment. Between a few guns and dogs what a fucking nightmare, if it's not the cops it's the spca. Then we also get asked about thing's when it's other people doing dumb shit.

Just remember, the arms code is just a guide it's NOT law. It's NOT illegal to have ammo in a vehicle as by law it doesn't have to be locked up.

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

.......You do realize it's illegal to leave a firearm in a vehicle, even a locked one. You are meant to take it with you. Cops are actively telling people to break the law by telling them to cover them and leave them in cars. WRONG. Very fucking wrong.

Arms Regulations 1992

19 Conditions relating to security precautions

2 c) ensuring that no firearm in the holder’s possession is left in a vehicle that is unattended.

If the firearm is in a vehicle and there is someone in attendance (hopefully not someone who intends to steal the firearm) then that should be legal. It's reasonable to assume that attendance means in the presence of? Therefore, someone in attendance could be someone next to the vehicle, whether locked or unlocked.

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

.......It's NOT illegal to have ammo in a vehicle as by law it doesn't have to be locked up.

I would think that's correct, although I don't know what the Land Transport Act 1998, if anything, says about it because I'm too lazy to look it up.

Ergo what I said. :rolleyes:

If there is someone there it's not unattended...

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

Ergo what I said. :rolleyes:

If there is someone there it's not unattended...

I was referring to what you actually wrote. You mentioned nothing about being unattended.

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

....You do realize it's illegal to leave a firearm in a vehicle, even a locked one. You are meant to take it with you....

If you're travelling alone, you obviously can't take a firearm into a service station like BP if you needed to use the toilet. If you asked an attendant to keep a close eye on the locked vehicle and that the firearm was covered up while you're temporarily occupied, that shouldn't be a problem.

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

Arms Regulations 1992

19 Conditions relating to security precautions

2 c) ensuring that no firearm in the holder’s possession is left in a vehicle that is unattended.

If the firearm is in a vehicle and there is someone in attendance (hopefully not someone who intends to steal the firearm) then that should be legal. It's reasonable to assume that attendance means in the presence of? Therefore, someone in attendance could be someone next to the vehicle, whether locked or unlocked.



I would think that's correct, although I don't know what the Land Transport Act 1998, if anything, says about it because I'm too lazy to look it up.

Comes under dangerous goods, for the quantities that most of use, no problem.

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

I was referring to what you actually wrote. You mentioned nothing about being unattended.



If you're travelling alone, you obviously can't take a firearm into a service station like BP if you needed to use the toilet. If you asked an attendant to keep a close eye on the locked vehicle and that the firearm was covered up while you're temporarily occupied, that shouldn't be a problem.

Do you not understand? It is illegal.

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

Do you not understand? It is illegal.

Do you not understand that if someone is in attendance then then it's not illegal?

Google the adjective "unattended".

1. not noticed or dealt with. "her behaviour went unnoticed and unattended to"

synonyms: ignored, disregarded, neglected, passed over, forgotten, forsaken, abandoned, left
"his cries went quite unattended"

2. not supervised or looked after."it is not acceptable for parents to leave children unattended at that age"

synonyms: unguarded, unwatched, by itself, alone, left alone, on its own, solitary, solo
"an unattended vehicle"

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

Do you not understand? It is illegal.

It's hardly unattended if you're just paying for gas at the servo.

Would you rather have people taking guns into servos or, like that idiot from Sporting Shooters a few years ago, saying shooters would be forced to take guns into banks?

Just don't leave the car unlocked while visiting a gun shop and a few hours later, when you get to the hunting area, finding your .338 Lapua has been nicked out of it.

Or leave a MG42 machine gun in your car overnight outside a motel in a shit part of Auckland and not even knowing your car was robbed until the bank rings you about someone using your credit card.

If you've got eyes on it, and remain close enough to intervene should someone approach the vehicle, then it's not unattended.

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Since you fucks are so knowledgeable you can inform the cops. I can tell you right fucking now you are wrong. Believe me, I know the law on this. Don't ask.

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

Since you fucks are so knowledgeable you can inform the cops. I can tell you right fucking now you are wrong. Believe me, I know the law on this. Don't ask.

What about if I set up a camera so I can watch my car from my phone while I'm having a dump in the servo dunnies?