Thread: Morrinsville Shooting

Ok no worries. But have a look at that article @Savage1 no bullet holes out the back window.
Just a theory that made sense based on the photo evidence.

Originally Posted by Sideshow

Ok no worries. But have a look at that article @Savage1 no bullet holes out the back window.
Just a theory that made sense based on the photo evidence.

There is a photo somewhere of the offenders car as well, you can make some assumptions on the range and angles from those which might explain the lack of holes in the back windscreen.

i would guess that the range was less than five metres and at a large angle.

Shit 5 metres would be real scary!!whites of the eye stuff!!

Bullets entering a windscreen tend to arc downwards, bullets leaving arc upwards for what its worth.

Five ten five hundred not nice. Yep white brown pants stuff alright.
Thanks for that @Beavis didn't know that.

Im just glad they caught the prick and that no cops or public were shot

I didnt hear whether they had found the perps rifle.

what is he getting charged with. attempted murder or something "softer"?

...and are the charges escalated if the firearm wasn't recovered?
If the firearm wasn't recovered.....it is still out there in the hands of like minded ar$ehole$.... - this should be an aggravating factor at sentencing and something the Police should be advocating: give us the firearm, or face harsher sentencing!! Where is the outrage of the Police Association and the feedback loop to the media if this is the case? - Please correct me if I'm wrong....

Pity he didnt walk out to cops with a gun pointed towards them,save us yrs of taxs.

One would expect a charge of attempted murder, times however many cops were within 30 degrees left or right of any of his shots.

Apart from proving insanity, his defense might be to forward reliable testimonials to the effect that he is a good shot and then draw attention to the fact no cops were shot.

And it would certainly not hinder his case to surrender that firearm.

Either way, he must go away for a long time.

Originally Posted by Trout

Pity he didnt walk out to cops with a gun pointed towards them,save us yrs of taxs.

Mate, no cops killed, no cop arrived home thinking about a person he'd killed, and Rollie Heke was caught. No down-sides to that, and worth my tax dollars.

Originally Posted by Cordite

Mate, no cops killed, no cop arrived home thinking about a person he'd killed, and Rollie Heke was caught. No down-sides to that, and worth my tax dollars.

Disagree. How do you rehabilitate someone who thinks this behaviour is OK? Best thing for all involved: he takes himself out - saves some poor Police or AOS member wondering if they could have done more and saves taxpayer dollars.
I'm all for rehabilitation and looking after people and all that feel good $hit, but as part of living in a functioning society; there is a social contract.... then consider he was already on home detention? This prick deserves everything he gets and then some...

@Nickoli

I agree Heke deserves everything that he is getting. But Heke did not kill anyone and so hardly deserves to die (though this could well have been an immediate consequence of his actions). Those of us who really would go for disproportional punishments could get a building job in Saudi and get a feel for that kind of barbaric society.

And Heke will be locked up for the safety of others. Whether he "rehabilitates" or not is a separate matter.

Originally Posted by Cordite

@Nickoli

I agree Heke deserves everything that he is getting. But Heke did not kill anyone and so hardly deserves to die (though this could well have been an immediate consequence of his actions). Those of us who really would go for disproportional punishments could get a building job in Saudi and get a feel for that kind of barbaric society.

And Heke will be locked up for the safety of others. Whether he "rehabilitates" or not is a separate matter.

@Cordite - I have advocated before for outsourcing our "corrections" (I use the title with a massive grain of salt....) to be outsourced to China or Saudi Arabia: people like Heke deserve no less than a first class ticket on their way to such "rehabilitation."
That no one was killed by this ar$eholes actions is a moot point: he has proven that he cannot abide by the social contract, his history has proven this...why take the chance? Chris Cahill wouldn't take the chance on law abiding firearms licence holders - let alone criminals (and has continued to focus on us) - someone with this level of disregard for the law gets what he deserves with no harm to others - so what?
Genuine question by the way - take out the emotive crap with previous Police shootings... what right does a criminal have where a demonstrated disregard for the law and human life has been shown? A dog who attacked someone would be shown less leniency....what's the difference?