Thread: Morrinsville Shooting

Understanding what we now believe we know, it is very interesting to go back and read some of the first two pages of this thread.

Hindsight, and all that.

Pays to keep your words soft and sweet - you never know when you might have to eat them.

"understanding what we now believe we know"

Think you may need to expand a little on that one

Originally Posted by Pengy

"understanding what we now believe we know"

Think you may need to expand a little on that one

Well, that thread ran out of fuel, I think mainly from a fact hose vacuum.

Did anyone ever finally hear what type of "MSSA" the offender used. Or was it an over-reported 10/22?

Originally Posted by Cordite

Well, that thread ran out of fuel, I think mainly from a fact hose vacuum.

Did anyone ever finally hear what type of "MSSA" the offender used. Or was it an over-reported 10/22?

10/22 could have been an e cat but I see your point

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...-pleads-guilty

Originally Posted by Boaraxa

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...-pleads-guilty

So, an AK style semi-auto 7.62mm rifle, methamphetamine, and cops returning fire. Yep, could have ended much worse than it did.

Yup.....from that photo.......he’s the whanau of......Hone Heke for sure.....

IPCA Report here: https://www.ipca.govt.nz/Site/public...e-waikato.aspx

16 rounds from a 7.62mm rifle fired by Heke, 29 rounds returned by cops.

Nothing deliberate then? Just a good, old fashion shoot out? And no one took a hit?

Snipers they are not, Cowboys yes!

Originally Posted by shooternz

Snipers they are not, Cowboys yes!

Cowboys they are not. Would have been a much higher casualty rate from 27 shots.

Only if fired by John Wayne

From the official report.

29. Officer C immediately reacted by aiming his pistol at Mr X and firing several bullets at him through the patrol car’s windscreen. Officer C believed he discharged these bullets in three groupings, leaning down behind the dashboard briefly between each one.

Question what is a representative charge?
From the report?
47. On 6 July 2018 Mr X pleaded guilty to a representative charge of using a firearm against law enforcement officers.

Originally Posted by Sideshow

Question what is a representative charge?
From the report?
47. On 6 July 2018 Mr X pleaded guilty to a representative charge of using a firearm against law enforcement officers.

https://www.justice.govt.nz/about/la...ing-documents/

Representative charges

A charge may be representative if multiple offences of the same type are alleged to have been committed in similar circumstances and

the offences are committed over a period of time, and the nature and circumstances of the offences make it unreasonable for the complainant to particularise dates or other details of the offences
or
it is likely that the same plea would be entered by the defendant to all offences if charged separately, and it would be unduly difficult for the Court to manage the charges separately due to the number of offences.