Thread: Morrinsville Shooting

Understanding what we now believe we know, it is very interesting to go back and read some of the first two pages of this thread.

Hindsight, and all that.

Pays to keep your words soft and sweet - you never know when you might have to eat them.

"understanding what we now believe we know"

Think you may need to expand a little on that one

Originally Posted by Pengy

"understanding what we now believe we know"

Think you may need to expand a little on that one

Well, that thread ran out of fuel, I think mainly from a fact hose vacuum.

Did anyone ever finally hear what type of "MSSA" the offender used. Or was it an over-reported 10/22?

Originally Posted by Cordite

Well, that thread ran out of fuel, I think mainly from a fact hose vacuum.

Did anyone ever finally hear what type of "MSSA" the offender used. Or was it an over-reported 10/22?

10/22 could have been an e cat but I see your point

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...-pleads-guilty

Originally Posted by Boaraxa

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...-pleads-guilty

So, an AK style semi-auto 7.62mm rifle, methamphetamine, and cops returning fire. Yep, could have ended much worse than it did.

Yup.....from that photo.......he’s the whanau of......Hone Heke for sure.....

IPCA Report here: https://www.ipca.govt.nz/Site/public...e-waikato.aspx

16 rounds from a 7.62mm rifle fired by Heke, 29 rounds returned by cops.

Nothing deliberate then? Just a good, old fashion shoot out? And no one took a hit?

Snipers they are not, Cowboys yes!

Originally Posted by shooternz

Snipers they are not, Cowboys yes!

Cowboys they are not. Would have been a much higher casualty rate from 27 shots.

Only if fired by John Wayne

From the official report.

29. Officer C immediately reacted by aiming his pistol at Mr X and firing several bullets at him through the patrol car’s windscreen. Officer C believed he discharged these bullets in three groupings, leaning down behind the dashboard briefly between each one.

Question what is a representative charge?
From the report?
47. On 6 July 2018 Mr X pleaded guilty to a representative charge of using a firearm against law enforcement officers.

From the report who fired what.
. Officers B and C collectively discharged a total of 29 9mm bullets at or in the direction of Mr X, nine of which are known to have hit the Holden on the driver’s side and windscreen. None of the bullets are believed to have hit Mr X (and he did not have any wounds or injuries when arrested 12 days later);
 Mr X discharged 16 .762mm bullets from his semi-automatic rifle.2 Of these:
o One bullet hit Officer A’s patrol car. It penetrated the rear passenger door and travelled through the front passenger’s seat, lodging into the inner passenger’s door. It is likely this bullet was fired when Officer A was driving up the driveway.
o Three bullets, which were aimed at Officer B and C’s patrol car, hit Mr X’s Holden. (Shot his own car)!
o Seven bullets hit Officer B and C’s patrol car including the driver’s door, front bonnet and windscreen. The bullets penetrated the engine bay, sump and the front windscreen, with one lodging in the dashboard in front of the driver’s seat.
o The remaining five bullets were not accounted for but are believed to include the initial shots fired at Officer A when Mr X first got out of the Holden.

Man bugger being in the middle of that lot good on the police for keeping safe and picking him up without anyone getting hurt, apart from the stress of incident.