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It's not a nazi swastika, which stands on end, but a traditional upright swastika, a symbol of good luck. After the concentration camps the good luck bit never seemed right again, and the previous use of the symbol was all but forgotten, in Europe at least.
Carlsberg brewery in Copenhagen has several granite elephant statues each with a swastika - but they are from 1901, and named after each of Mr Carlsberg's then surviving children:
The ASEA company in Sweden had a similar kind of innocent good luck use of the old swastika - but they dropped it in 1933 due to it becoming associated with the Nazis in Germany. Should date the generator quite well, unless they just installed some equipment with an old plate in NZ, after all, who would care to notice way out here?
Edit - a paste from Wikipedia Arapuni Power Station:
"The station, complete with three turbines and provisions for a fourth, was commissioned in mid-1929. Shortly after commissioning, Arapuni was closed for two years while a water seepage problem was investigated and the headrace lined. The station, with the addition of a fourth turbine, was recommissioned in May 1932."
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Death to the squarehead sausage-guzzling Krauts.
@Carlsen Highway
You forgot baby-eating.
An itch ... is ... a desire to scratch
I think the hindus use a backwards version of it as well saw it at a hindu wedding i went to
" Today Waiuku...Tomorrow the world" just doesn't have the same ring as "235 cunt!!!" though.
And nun-raping.
I get tired of people explaining that everyone in Hitlers Germany wasn't a Nazi. As if that makes everything all alright. But I looked into the question and discovered I had it all wrong.
Apparently no-one in Hitlers Germany was truly Nazi I understand now, which surprised me no end. And apparently the whole nation wasn't rabidly anti-Semitic either. Someone on Youtube explained that none of the concentration camps had gas chambers too. Apparently that was some kind of mistake.
If that don't beat all. I wish I could have run that past the woman at my work who had been at Auschwitz, but sadly she gone now, she could have confirmed that for me.
I understood that the only underground resistance to the Nazi regime consisted of 6 teenagers armed with a typewriter, and an elderly couple who wrote some postcards, but I must have misunderstood that too.
I would recommend a book to anyone interested, about the Police battalions on the Russian front. They were older men and other physically unfit for the military. Normal men, not soldiers. They didnt receive any special indoctrination or even training, and unlike the SS, they didn't have to be Nazi Party members.
To a man they embraced the mass shooting of Jewish villagers in their thousands. They even volunteered to go on their days off and do it. There was only one chap who applied for a transfer because he didnt like the work, and they moved him without any fuss. There were no repercussions.
In 1940's you didn't need to be a Nazi to shoot naked civilians by the truckload. You just had to be German. It was an antisemitic culture, Nazism arose out of it, not the other way around.
I didnt actually read the article, so this post may be out of place or irrelevant. Slot in wherever appropriate.
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To say there was no indoctrination, is stretching the truth a bit far, it occurred from the 1930s, until the hating of Jews, became the norm, so yes the whole country became nazi,s. Yet if not for the treaty of Versailles, hitler would never have come to power.
Yet the average soldier may not have been a rabid nazi, if he had been in the Africa corp, he may not have had a clue what was happening in the camps, he was fighting for his country or probably more for his esteemed leader Rommel. Why people would decide to hate another person to the point that they commit such atrocities we will never know.
Personally I collect knives, but for some reason can never bring myself to buy anything with a nazi emblem on it, and find it offensive when I see them for sale, yet have no problem with a Russian hammer and sickle, yet Stalin killed far more innocent people than hitler.
Alas we degrees from the original post.
@Taff
Yes, antisemitism is/was also more widespread than just Germany. British immigration policy reduced numbers of refugees escaping Germany pre-holocaust.
I was waiting for someone to mention the offensiveness of the hammer and sickle. I agree with you though, I'd not want some nazi dagger in my house, even the garage.
How about a red flag with a central yellow-orange hammer and sickle? Pol Pot. But it's trendy wearing a hammer and sickle while listening to your ipod...
An itch ... is ... a desire to scratch
I am not stretching the truth. Seven years of parades and posters doesn't suddenly make mass murderers out of peaceful people. They had a deeply anti-Semitic culture, which the Nazis made government policy.
I have noticed people de-criminalising and inventing excuses for the Nazi in the last few years or so. There seems to be a new generation of young men growing up who dont want the Nazis to be bad guys. There is some kind of glamour there which they must still find attractive. Youtube is full of it.
And frankly, the men doing that re enacting in the article are the same. I saw the same crowd, at MOTAT once. They had all their Nazi army uniforms and some cars and so forth. There wasn't one of them under the age of forty and they were all running around breathing heavily pretending they were in a war and were 21 year old Nazi supermen. It was all vaguely embarassing and unsettling at the same time. Just don't. There has to be a better fantasy you can act out with your mates.
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You should probably be more embarrassed and unsettled about the fact that many of today's youth think that Communism is attractive. An ideology that killed infinitely more people in the countries where it was implemented, than their socialist competitors, the National Socialists.
Pictured Wellington, September 2017.
Thats is scary. They want National out, but Labour would have to go as would the greens, Act NZ firstand almost every other party as none of them are far enough to the socialist side of things to want to go communist.....Well perhaps the greens do, but they have not said it yet....
There were lots of those posters all down Courtenay Place, several students walking about wearing similar shirts.
Anyway, be that as it may - if someone wanted to dress up in a period correct uniform of a Red Army soldier with red stars and reenact the Battle of Berlin for example, then have at it. Historical reenactors in this country don't just wear German uniforms, they were WW I and WW II Commonwealth uniforms too.
Wasn't that firefighter who planted the fake bombs in Hamilton a few years ago an SS re-enactor?
Most of the reenactors I have met personally, act out many different roles from many different nations, not exclusively Wehrmacht/Waffen SS.
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