Thread: New government will rewrite Arms Act

I want to see winnie in charge of how much funding the media recieves....

Originally Posted by MB

Good news. Feeling like my votes weren't wasted for once.

+1 there heres hoping

"I don't get warm fuzzies at all. Those who are going to be asked to justify the registry are of course going to be able to justify it beyond reproach"

I get that, but with Nicole McKee responsible for firearms they may not be able to be able to do so beyond "reproach".

Time will tell

It is nice to read something positive about our government and our sport/hobby.

Made me smile.

I don't believe that any other 'sports' or 'pastimes' got themselves written into a Govt Coalition agreement. We did well.

And we have one very smart lady on our side that is now in Cabinet where she can command some respect on our behalf.

And tell some people what to do.

I'm quite suprised as to how it's played out and at that stoked would be a understatement!

It feels like there is some hope for our country. That Nicole and her tireless efforts have paid off and that some good news on firearms law is a seriously well overdue welcome change to the status quo we've come to expect in the last 6 years.
I've supported Nicole from day dot but I never thought a change of the firearms laws on the day of formation of government was even possible. I'm gobsmacked in a good way.

With Nicole, Mark, David and Co I feel like we as a country will be better off.

I'm hoping that when police and police association mouthpieces spout off to the media they'll be held accountable for any lies told

Originally Posted by STC

What did you guys expect would happen? "registry disbanded 5 minutes after the meeting" ?

Of course they will have to come up with sound reasoning! The reason why a firearms registry is a silly idea is exactly what everyone has been saying for months/years: it costs $ and achieves nothing! But just because a few grumpy old shooters say so does not mean its true for the wider NZ public.

National have themselves said repeatedly that they would look at the cost-to benefit aspect of it. And that assessment will be very clear (if not done by ideologues, which I doubt it will).

This is a big win! and much more than we could have hoped for!

Dead right it is, I am pleasantly surprised.

My take on it all is that they will spin it out for 3 years and any changes will only take place if we all vote them in for another term.

Originally Posted by XR500

The body language of the three gents announcing the new govt and policies indicated to me that they were quite proud of what they had achieved.

Yeah, nah.

They're proud to have done a self serving deal which puts themselves in power.

It remains to be seen how much of the promises are delivered on and whether the delivery matches the expectation.

Remember promises are cheap to make and expensive to deliver on.

Regarding repeal of laws around clubs and ranges.
I'm involved with many clubs and three ranges.

There was some work involved in getting the ranges to the appropriate standards and inspected.
It wasn't onerous work and has improved the ranges.
All these ranges have passed their inspections.

Other ranges needed to fail to buck up the ideas of those range operating organisations.
Some ranges were/are simply dangerous and shouldn't be operating.
These ranges and their operators need to change.

Plenty of guys on here were saying nothing would change with ACT being part of the new Govt. Pretty quiet now aren’t they..

If anyone noticed...I never gave up on ACT, had always backed them here on pollical topics and had spoken with Nicole on her intentions to rewrite the arms act at one of our Wellington Antique and historic arms xmas lunch years ago. A true person of her words. She has worked hard for the firearms community and have not been sitting around yapping bs, she even went back to university to broaden her education specially for this task whilst she was currently working on the act. Those who talk behind her back, you should meet her, if you can get over your sulking to do so.

Originally Posted by blip

I want to see winnie in charge of how much funding the media recieves....

now that would be entertaining.

A simpler and cheaper way would be to just cut all funding. Why would the taxpayer have to pay for blatant propaganda?

Originally Posted by Cyclops

Yeah, nah.

They're proud to have done a self serving deal which puts themselves in power.

It remains to be seen how much of the promises are delivered on and whether the delivery matches the expectation.

Remember promises are cheap to make and expensive to deliver on.

Regarding repeal of laws around clubs and ranges.
I'm involved with many clubs and three ranges.

There was some work involved in getting the ranges to the appropriate standards and inspected.
It wasn't onerous work and has improved the ranges.
All these ranges have passed their inspections.

Other ranges needed to fail to buck up the ideas of those range operating organisations.
Some ranges were/are simply dangerous and shouldn't be operating.
These ranges and their operators need to change.

If the ranges were so dangerous how come the number of accidents/incidents on ranges is so low? And have been for so long.
And when you look at those statistics think about the New Zealand roading system and the number of accidents/incidents that happen daily.

It makes me question the standard applied to ranges when they don't build roads to the same standard.

Originally Posted by 19Badger

If the ranges were so dangerous how come the number of accidents/incidents on ranges is so low? And have been for so long.
And when you look at those statistics think about the New Zealand roading system and the number of accidents/incidents that happen daily.

It makes me question the standard applied to ranges when they don't build roads to the same standard.

I'd hazard a guess that most range users aren't on third and subsequent etc and therefore the ranges are generally only used by people who have a bit of common sense. Any dropkick can learn to drive a motor vehicle regardless of licensing or registration or even having lawful possession of the vehicle. I am far more concerned about the pissed cu*ts in my town driving then I'll ever be about ad hoc community "ranges" we lost.