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    Just words at this this stage yes, but as the govt is yet to be sworn in words are all that is possible. This is as good as it could be, theses are good words. Today is a good day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandpamac View Post
    Centrefire semi autos. Not even mentioned. I think that these are gone for good. Many forget that National voted unanimously to ban them along with everyone else other than the one ACT MP at the time.

    This was always going to be a contentious issue and one that ACT made very clear any possible changes would only occur after serious public consultation and open minded hearings. ACT has made the point that semi auto centrefires have been available for pest control and for collectors anyway so there would not be much change under their proposals, this is an indication of where their thoughts are. So I agree wide access to semi autos is unlikely but what eventually happens will depend on how good a rational argument we shooters can put up at the consultation, submission and select committee stages. A strong united voice with rational arguments might lead to surprising changes. OTOH I suspect that too many people suggesting US style 2A and self defence rules might not help our case!

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    Write to Nicole and show you support her. She is very good to deal with and one of the few mps that will actually get back to you. That alone speaks volumes..
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    Quote Originally Posted by blip View Post
    Write to Nicole and show you support her. She is very good to deal with and one of the few mps that will actually get back to you. That alone speaks volumes..
    Actually a damn good point, many take the trouble to write to complain, no so may take the trouble to write to say thanks. Do you have an email address or postal address that you could share.
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    When I was a child I thought fairytales began with "once upon a time..." . Now, a couple of years on, I've realized that they really begin with "if I am elected...".

    I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blip View Post
    Write to Nicole and show you support her. She is very good to deal with and one of the few mps that will actually get back to you. That alone speaks volumes..
    You’re right, I’ve had a reply back from Nicole. We are lucky to have her on our side.
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    Ill try and pm it. Not sure if its the right thing to do putting it on forum unless mods think its ok?
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    My cautious optimism over the announcements re firearms legislation is tempered by my cynical pessimism that it was announced by politicians......
    I will say this however, removing the police from firearms licensing may be the best part of the coalition agreement and having Nicole in a position to drive change may result in common sense workable legislation.
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    You can get in touch on ACTs website

    https://www.act.org.nz/contact_nicole_mckee
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    Interesting to see how it all plays out after the dust settles. I do welcome any review or rewrite of the Arms Act.

    However, without sounding too pessimistic, I think we can observe some interesting trends within our parliament.

    By my count we have 28 ministers, two undersecretaries, and 76 portfolios. This is actually up from 68 in 2017. For parties that campaigned against governmental bloat this is a notable increase and signals the level 'ministerial creep' within government in a broader sense. Increasingly we have ministers for X that don't map onto actual ministries, and therefore lack real levers of power to instigate change.

    Not saying this is the case with firearms law reform but more generally I think we should be cautious when a new government comes in with a pile of feel-good ministerial titles as a result of prolonged negotiations. I would like to see a more lean and effective government with a serious work program.

    It is good to have an active minister however and as everyone has said engaging them directly is a good idea. After all they all work for us.
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    Greetings All,
    It has been a fair while since 1969, the first election I voted in. MMP has changed everything. With FPP there was much less policy in the campaign and that not always delivered on. Today there is plenty of policy released by the parties but only that which makes it into the coalition agreement becomes Government Policy. This is what has happened over recent weeks. Some that have posted above may be oblivious to this. Hanging out for an end to firearms registration could be a long wait and an even longer one for the return of centrefire semi autos. The words until hell freezes over spring to mind.
    Regards Grandpamac.
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    It’s a good day for our sport, removing it from the Police is fantastic, certain hierarchy in there have constantly demonstrated their disdain towards lawful FAL holders and used us as scapegoats for their mistakes. Dialling back the range requirements will help smaller clubs to continue, one of the reasons we run public nights for non members is so folk don’t go to the local river, etc to find a spot to sight there rifle in.
    Also if a friendly farmer wants to allow a bunch of Forum members to use a paddock to have Gong session it should be able to be done legally using common sense.

    Hopefully with it going to Justice they can tie it in with some heftier sentencing for gun crime, throw prohibition orders at the gangs and things will be looking a bit more sensible all round. I have no doubt that Nicole will do a good job for us.
    Shut up, get out & start pushing!

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    this is good to hear so early on from act and that it was a main priority in negotiations for them.I to feel real good about giving them my vote and actually feel they do care about us gun owners.All they need to do to get the general public on side with this is to say they are going to come down hard like sledge hammer hard on illegal fire arms owners ie gangs and that they are going to actively hunt them down and find the guns.And then ultimately relax the laws again for the law abiding again.

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    Nicole McKee

    I am humbled to be a part of what will be a Government of real change for the next three years. Today I was announced as the incoming Cabinet Minister for Courts and Associate Minister of Justice for firearms reform.
    May I extend my heartfelt thanks to those that supported the ACT party by loaning us your party vote last month. My thanks also goes to those that have supported me personally, professionally and also to my family.
    We have some really good firearms policy wins that we will be working towards. Some of these are straight away, some will occur over this term of Government - they are:
    - Rewrite the Arms Act 1983 to provide for greater protection of public safety and simplify regulatory requirements to improve compliance and pass it through all stages during this term of Parliament.
    - Transfer responsibility for the Arms Act 1983, policy and regulation to the Ministry of Justice, and the Firearms Safety Authority, administrator of the Act, to another department such as the Department of Internal Affairs.
    - Review whether the Firearms Registry is effectively improving public safety, beginning by June 2024.
    - Immediately begin to repeal and replace Part 6 of the Arms Act 1983 relating to clubs and ranges.
    Now is the time to roll up the sleeves and start getting this work done.
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    What a good lady !!!

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