Thread: New government will rewrite Arms Act

While I no longer think the ownership of centre fire semis again is impossible, there is certainly a long road to get there, even if it doesn't happen, which could still very well be the case it's certainly a step In the right direction, with the removal of police from arms act management, and a complete rewrite of the arms act, today is certainly looking to be a much better day for our community than this day last year

I take more from a freshly formed govt announcing policy that I take from any opposition parties seeking your vote by making promises.

This is a good outcome, so far...

An accountable outcome by agreement of all, not just a wish list from 1 of 3..

the math is good..... better than it has been for some time...

but just remember, the master of disaster is one of those 3 - he aint so hot at putting others in front of himself... Winnie always be first...

I think there is a bit of an audit and then purge to be done within the head of the police, the minister of disarmament ( yes it is not talked about but it does exist) and those among the government at the time who helped to shape the current gun law and threw under the bus the shooters and hunters after xchurch events.
Yes,putting Winnie in charge of the media ( finance) for the next 6 months to a year would be an entertaining experience.

I still want to have a modern AR platform, M1, M14....

Originally Posted by Bush Basher

Nicola McKee: Minister for Courts and Associate Minister of Justice (Firearms).

Have a bit of faith mate

faith is for the religious not the political .
im supremely hopeful that nicole gets her way we get our way.,
theres just two problems seymour not getting the deputys job straight away and winnies penchent for burning shit down if he dont get his way.
make that three prob;ems
your telling me that the incoming government thats about to hit the public service like a ellesmere chopper cull is goin to set up more of a beaurocracy by cutting the cops out of the firearms authority completely there,by adding more levels peeps and cost to it.
ALSO
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All they need to do to get the general public on side with this is to say they are going to come down hard like sledge hammer hard on illegal fire arms owners ie gangs and that they are going to actively hunt them down and find the guns.And then ultimately relax the laws again for the law abiding again.

which is why theyre going to have to sooth the cops feelings while quietly sidelineing thier silliest and ineffective components, \
you cant expect cops to target guns from gangs risking life and limb
if you basicly say the cops are the problem in the first place.
maybe nicole could start on doc next

Originally Posted by gsp follower

faith is for the religious not the political .
im supremely hopeful that nicole gets her way we get our way.,
theres just two problems seymour not getting the deputys job straight away and winnies penchent for burning shit down if he dont get his way.
make that three prob;ems
your telling me that the incoming government thats about to hit the public service like a ellesmere chopper cull is goin to set up more of a beaurocracy by cutting the cops out of the firearms authority completely there,by adding more levels peeps and cost to it.
ALSO
[
which is why theyre going to have to sooth the cops feelings while quietly sidelineing thier silliest and ineffective components, \
you cant expect cops to target guns from gangs risking life and limb
if you basicly say the cops are the problem in the first place.
maybe nicole could start on doc next

100% speculation

I think the news is very promising.

To get the firearms act replaced within this term means firearms owners can't just do nothing, they will need to do submissions and participate, we have to support Nicole and this will be how we do it.
I'm looking forward to the review of the registry, all those that have registered their firearms and have had incorrect information entered because the correct information wasn't in the menu will need to speak up and participate in the review. How can a registry be effective when the information is incorrect, and if it doesn't matter that that information isn't correct then why is that information needed.

We, as firearm owners need to participate, apathy isn't an option if we want good outcomes.

……..and to try and “Right” all the “Wrongs’ in 3 years???!!!

The optimist in me says they’ll have a bloody good grack at it

The pessimist in me says..there are too many COOKS in the kitchen!!!

A coalition of these 3 individuals with “known” ambitions,after watching the debates and knowing “turncoat”WINNIE is in the mix……..Ill take a deep breath and hope they can all play together in the same sand pit!!!

Is this a record on here for the longest lasting political thread?

Someone will take it to far or off track you watch

Well i hope it gets locked and not binned. Quite a good civil discussion going on..

Self moderate it and keep it civil

Originally Posted by 19Badger

I think the news is very promising.

To get the firearms act replaced within this term means firearms owners can't just do nothing, they will need to do submissions and participate, we have to support Nicole and this will be how we do it.
I'm looking forward to the review of the registry, all those that have registered their firearms and have had incorrect information entered because the correct information wasn't in the menu will need to speak up and participate in the review. How can a registry be effective when the information is incorrect, and if it doesn't matter that that information isn't correct then why is that information needed.

We, as firearm owners need to participate, apathy isn't an option if we want good outcomes.

100 % agree

We can all, no matter what our internal differences are, agree that if we help to build security for our chosen sports and pastime then we can get a better outcome for shooting in general and also remind the antis that we are a political force not to be fucked with

Originally Posted by Tahr

Nicole McKee

I am humbled to be a part of what will be a Government of real change for the next three years. Today I was announced as the incoming Cabinet Minister for Courts and Associate Minister of Justice for firearms reform.
May I extend my heartfelt thanks to those that supported the ACT party by loaning us your party vote last month. My thanks also goes to those that have supported me personally, professionally and also to my family.
We have some really good firearms policy wins that we will be working towards. Some of these are straight away, some will occur over this term of Government - they are:
- Rewrite the Arms Act 1983 to provide for greater protection of public safety and simplify regulatory requirements to improve compliance and pass it through all stages during this term of Parliament.
- Transfer responsibility for the Arms Act 1983, policy and regulation to the Ministry of Justice, and the Firearms Safety Authority, administrator of the Act, to another department such as the Department of Internal Affairs.
- Review whether the Firearms Registry is effectively improving public safety, beginning by June 2024.
- Immediately begin to repeal and replace Part 6 of the Arms Act 1983 relating to clubs and ranges.
Now is the time to roll up the sleeves and start getting this work done.

Greetings @Tahr and all,
That is one shit load of work in 4 bullet points. The planner in me spots that most are on the critical path.
1. Transfer responsibility for Arms Act policy and regulation to the MoJ and administration to Internal Affairs or other. This is a big job to get the changes in place, funded, staffed and ready to go. Six months would be a tight time frame.
2. Commence a review the effectiveness of the Firearms Registry by June 2024. This can't really start until item 1 is complete because it is the MoJ that will drive the policy work.
3. Immediately begin to repeal and replace Part 6 of the Arms Act relating to Clubs and Ranges. See item 2. No doubt some discussion documents can be circulated but the real work wont start until item one is complete.
4. Rewrite the Arms Act and pass it through all stages in this term of Parliament. This looks like a stretch target, more aspirational than real. All the work needs to be compressed into about 18 months form June 2024 to December 2025. National wont want anything contentious going through Parliament in 2026. Until item 4 has been accomplished registration will remain.

As well as the tight time frame there is National slashing and burning budgets and staffing to pay for the tax cuts after their Foreign Buyer Tax got the arse not to mention the grandstanding and chest beating by the two minor coalition parties trying to stave of obliteration in the 2026 election. Please make sure that your seat belt is fastened and your tray table in the upright position as it will be a bumpy ride.
Regards
Grandpamac.

Originally Posted by Friwi

I think there is a bit of an audit and then purge to be done within the head of the police, the minister of disarmament ( yes it is not talked about but it does exist) and those among the government at the time who helped to shape the current gun law and threw under the bus the shooters and hunters after xchurch events.
Yes,putting Winnie in charge of the media ( finance) for the next 6 months to a year would be an entertaining experience.

Are you remembering that Winnie was the Minister of Disarmament in 2019?