Thread: New government will rewrite Arms Act

The best thing we can do is to recruit more shooters and hunters into the sport,let's not let this chance go by.

Act was shrewd enough to capitalise on the shooters vote just as we were being thrown under the bus,Nicole ticks all the boxes we need and can deflect alot of the " wokesters and Mummies" usual rhetoric by virtue of who she is.

Imagine 500,000 shooters by the next election, its a big goal but its not impossible.

problem is we all have to stick together.....

Originally Posted by blip

problem is we all have to stick together.....

And there still lies the problem.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Nicole McKee

I am humbled to be a part of what will be a Government of real change for the next three years. Today I was announced as the incoming Cabinet Minister for Courts and Associate Minister of Justice for firearms reform.
May I extend my heartfelt thanks to those that supported the ACT party by loaning us your party vote last month. My thanks also goes to those that have supported me personally, professionally and also to my family.
We have some really good firearms policy wins that we will be working towards. Some of these are straight away, some will occur over this term of Government - they are:
- Rewrite the Arms Act 1983 to provide for greater protection of public safety and simplify regulatory requirements to improve compliance and pass it through all stages during this term of Parliament.
- Transfer responsibility for the Arms Act 1983, policy and regulation to the Ministry of Justice, and the Firearms Safety Authority, administrator of the Act, to another department such as the Department of Internal Affairs.
- Review whether the Firearms Registry is effectively improving public safety, beginning by June 2024.
- Immediately begin to repeal and replace Part 6 of the Arms Act 1983 relating to clubs and ranges.
Now is the time to roll up the sleeves and start getting this work done.

I know Nicole and wish her well.

I am concerned about the proposed transfer of functions from Police to the Dept of Internal Affairs (DIA).
I strikes me as out of the pan into the fire.

I have previously seen worked DIA work on other issues and proposals.
I was and am very unimpressed (to say the least) with the work of DIA.
DIA staff's lack of competency and predetermined bias was both surprising and disappointing.
You make think DIA will be better than Police regarding management & administration of firearms regulation and law & I hope they will be but I am fearful that they won't be.
I am fearful that the transfer will be another opportunity for the anti-gun lobby to get their hands on the reins of power which won't be good for us.

Remember the path to Hell is paved with good intentions

Agreed. Maybe a private contractor like the AA or the M Mob?
In theory though, it should free up some police to do what they are supposed to be doing.

Originally Posted by zimmer

And there still lies the problem.

wouldnt call it a problem.

Just get rid of the grumpy negative fools that try to poison the sport for their short term personal gains/grievances. Or make it clear to them that they are not welcome within the sport.

Originally Posted by Cyclops

I know Nicole and wish her well.

I am concerned about the proposed transfer of functions from Police to the Dept of Internal Affairs (DIA).
I strikes me as out of the pan into the fire.

I have previously seen worked DIA work on other issues and proposals.
I was and am very unimpressed (to say the least) with the work of DIA.
DIA staff's lack of competency and predetermined bias was both surprising and disappointing.
You make think DIA will be better than Police regarding management & administration of firearms regulation and law & I hope they will be but I am fearful that they won't be.
I am fearful that the transfer will be another opportunity for the anti-gun lobby to get their hands on the reins of power which won't be good for us.

Remember the path to Hell is paved with good intentions

TeRei made a good point in a previous post: Just like the seperation of powers in Government it is necessary for gun rights to be removed from the police who have assumed a role of judge and executioner.

Greetings All,
While all of the drama of the last six weeks was unfolding I remembered a clip on TV of NZ First marching out of their caucus with National. A quick search revealed that this was the demise of the National NZ First coalition formed after the 1996 election. This was our first MMP election in which National had received 44 seats (sound familiar) and NZ First 17 seats (including all 5 of the Maori seats). The opposition consisted of Labour, ACT in their first election, Alliance including the Greens and United NZ. There was one leader still in Parliament. You guessed it Winston Peters an ex National MP.
Will history repeat itself? I don't know but it will be interesting watching.
Regards Grandpamac.

I HOPE.....that the delay in getting things nailed down...has that senario sorted...it WAS MENTIONED in one of the press conferences,having a built in and signed off ability to agree to dissagree with each other but it is to be done civilly back stage and get sorted not airing dirty laundry in public...that was my take on what was said anyway.
the waka jumping bill....... not sure where thats at now..but if indeed the three parties have been hog tied together for next three years as one would hope has been done...it shouldnt be an issue
only time will tell.
we need to give them a chance to find feet and come out swinging before anyone starts chucking rocks in their direction.

The left wing propaganda machinery will "see" division at every stage trying to wind them up.

This will have the opposite effect, a common enemy unites...

I am concerned about the proposed transfer of functions from Police to the Dept of Internal Affairs (DIA).
I strikes me as out of the pan into the fire

the cops are gonna cry foul and say your not backing us to do our jobs waawaa.
no we aint backing you cos you screwed up,
not for the first time and then made law abiding shooters suffer and pay for your incompetence.
to wit 2 years after bieng re upped im still waiting for a securirty check which the cops instead of turning up took not long ago in a phone survey what a crock that public safetys the aim.
if rego is the be all then why 5 years to comply??
simple if we all did it at once they couldnt keep up.and it,d crash

Just get rid of the grumpy negative fools that try to poison the sport for their short term personal gains/grievances. Or make it clear to them that they are not welcome within the sport.

who decides who they are ???you

.therin lies the problem your grumpy negative blah blah blah is someones best mate father uncle grandfather or the female eqivelents so you alienate possibble allies or already licenced hunters straight up.
the only way this works is if we put aside all our petty bias,s and bite ou tongues on the minor annoyances others of a different faction might spout.
everyone but the illegal dangerous and mentaly unstable must be treated fairly and with the respect of at least tryin to do something to help together.

The left wing propaganda machinery will "see" division at every stage trying to wind them up.

This will have the opposite effect, a common enemy unites...

bet you five buks winnie has luxton carrying his lunch for him by next week and seymour shining his shoes

Originally Posted by Cyclops

I know Nicole and wish her well.

I am concerned about the proposed transfer of functions from Police to the Dept of Internal Affairs (DIA).
I strikes me as out of the pan into the fire.

I have previously seen worked DIA work on other issues and proposals.
I was and am very unimpressed (to say the least) with the work of DIA.
DIA staff's lack of competency and predetermined bias was both surprising and disappointing.
You make think DIA will be better than Police regarding management & administration of firearms regulation and law & I hope they will be but I am fearful that they won't be.
I am fearful that the transfer will be another opportunity for the anti-gun lobby to get their hands on the reins of power which won't be good for us.

Remember the path to Hell is paved with good intentions

On the other hand, DIA has some people that are VERY competent and experienced and has had technology projects that have been very successfully implemented in the past. If any agency has the background and resourcing to take this on, it's DIA.

Originally Posted by zimmer

And there still lies the problem.

Well said @zimmer,
We all need to be part of the solution but I see little of that in HB unfortunately. There still seems to be a lot of small groups or clubs wanting their own private range rather than grouping together to do something decent as has happened in other areas. Currently their seems to be a belief that the new government will turn the clock back to what we had before and I don't see much chance of that especially after reading Nicole's statement. I wish this wasn't so.
Regards Grandpamac.

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well he is the most experianced one there and knows how the system works and how to work it...

All I can say is Nicole McKee has worked bloody tirelessly on our behalf. She is a legend. This news can only be viewed as outstanding and for once its good news. ACT have listened to us.

They went from a single mp to double digits in short order.

Why?

They spoke common sense, they said what alot of hard working kiwis thought and called out the nonsense.

This is all great news for the first time in what feels like a very long time. Let's remember to back them up and show support. They listened to us. If we do not support them do not expect them to back us again.