Thread: New gun security laws

Here is a legal opinion on the crap the police are saying, last part is cat A but it is all interesting reading.

http://www.pistolnz.org.nz/media/119...n_re_safes.pdf

It isnt law a case has to go to court for that for a decision I believe.

Originally Posted by stretch

According to http://www.police.govt.nz/sites/defa...nts-pol67n.pdf, the minimum lock standard for Strongrooms, Rooms of stout construction, Steel boxes and cabinets, and Safes is a 5-lever Mortice lock complying with BS3621.

Strongrooms, Steel boxes and cabinets, and Safes require 2x locks, while Rooms of stout construction seem to only require 1. That fucks my safe.

From a security perspective, I wonder how a Group 1 combination dial compares to a 5-lever mortice lock.

Yet the last AO I spoke to (last week) said only 3 models had been reapproved, including the Kilwell one. Kilwell Deluxe 10 Gun Safe - E-Cat Key Lock | GD-10K | Kilwell Sports Ltd. Strangely enough, the picture shows it only having ONE lock.

I think you may find its locking points that matter.

Originally Posted by Taff

I think you may find its locking points that matter.

Let's hope so.

I think basically everybody is fucked.

Pinched from one of the other forums:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ru4947lssl...safes.pdf?dl=0

Originally Posted by stretch

Pinched from one of the other forums:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ru4947lssl...safes.pdf?dl=0

Hahaha someone should take that to parliament and cause an uproar But knowing New Zealand politicians, It would most likely end in stricter gun laws

Originally Posted by Shahin

Hahaha someone should take that to parliament and cause an uproar But knowing New Zealand politicians, It would most likely end in stricter gun laws

Needs to be taken to court and let a judge make a decision. Parliament won't hold the police liable, they'll just cover their tracks and make it legal for them to do what they were already doing.

can you advise which forum, if this is legit im printing and keeping a copy.

Pistol NZ has it on their website. Police and Legislation

Very interesting. Worth reading.

Yip that was sent to me a couple days ago via PNZ.

i think as owners we need to be as proactive as reasonably possible.

But it's important that we fully understand the current law so we don't get walked over by overbearing dribblers that somehow gravitate to positions of authority and enforcement...

Should you print the legal advice off? Yes I certainly would.

And laminate it.

And hang it on the wall next to your safe along with the relevant parts of the act.

Mm very interesting indeed.


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