Thread: New gun security laws

She did not take the regio for the cop?

Getting back on track, I am about to move house and checked out the new security regs for cabinets and safes it says for wooden floors should be bolted through a steel plate but does not give the thickness of said plate
anybody know what it should be no point in asking Mr plod most of them have no idea even those that should, be interested in what people have had passed do not want to waste money on thicker than I need to do the job.

A cabinet should be bolted to a minimum of two surfaces, one of which shall be the floor. Bolt shafts shall be a minimum of 10 mm in diameter and when bolted into concrete, expanding or chemical setting bolts may be used. Where the cabinet is bolted to a wooden floor it shall be through bolted to a steel plate which exceeds the floor area of the cabinet and is retained on at least two floor joists. All nuts must be on the inside of the cabinet, and bolts welded or burred to resist removal. It is recommended that the cabinet or box be bolted in a confined space, such as a wardrobe or cupboard.

http://www.police.govt.nz/sites/defa...nts-pol67n.pdf

Firearms forms and guides | New Zealand Police

Originally Posted by shooternz

Getting back on track, I am about to move house and checked out the new security regs for cabinets and safes it says for wooden floors should be bolted through a steel plate but does not give the thickness of said plate
anybody know what it should be no point in asking Mr plod most of them have no idea even those that should, be interested in what people have had passed do not want to waste money on thicker than I need to do the job.

I haven't had my wood-floor installation certified yet, but I have assumed the minimum plate thickness would be 6mm for mild steel. I've gone with 8mm checker-plate, as that's what I was able to score for free. Using 1/2" threaded rod for the bolts because again, free.

Yes I have read the specs on that, and there is no plate thickness mentioned.

That's what I thought with the plate bolted to the floor joists the only way to get it out is with a chainsaw and I have 3 safes with not enough room between them to fit a chainsaw so I will go with the 3mm our vetting officer and AO are both pretty reasonable people,

Just filled my renewal form out. It's interesting to see that the police are using drivers licence numbers as i d for all concerned.
I believe this is illegal but who is going to argue if he wants to keep hunting.

Originally Posted by Brian

Just filled my renewal form out. It's interesting to see that the police are using drivers licence numbers as i d for all concerned.
I believe this is illegal but who is going to argue if he wants to keep hunting.

They simply have presumed that because it is on the form they have to fill it out. But that is not the case. The drivers license details are there for the purchase of Airguns where they buyer does not need a FA license, but has to be over 18. This way the cops use the same form and simply put a Driver license down as proof of age. Apparently this is too simple.

Question has to be asked...why would a DL make any difference? You dont have to have a DL to buy a car so why would you want one to buy a rifle? Could be handy if you are buying a LAV or a Tank though.....

Originally Posted by timattalon

They simply have presumed that because it is on the form they have to fill it out. But that is not the case. The drivers license details are there for the purchase of Airguns where they buyer does not need a FA license, but has to be over 18. This way the cops use the same form and simply put a Driver license down as proof of age. Apparently this is too simple.

Question has to be asked...why would a DL make any difference? You dont have to have a DL to buy a car so why would you want one to buy a rifle? Could be handy if you are buying a LAV or a Tank though.....

Pretty sure I made a post about this exact scenario. Copper tried to tell me if I was using this form I had to fill it all in. Told him to send it to the AO and she can talk to me about it if she so wishes.
Never heard from her, but it took over a week for it to get sent to the dealer.

I tried to explain it to one the other day, to no avail.

Even showed the AO where it says "Firearms Licence OR Drivers Licence (as the case may require )" on the back of THEIR form. Unfortunately, I guess reading comprehension isn't a requirement for the job.

I have a deep hatred for the Police. They have this history of doing whatever they feel like. We cannot rely on police to protect us from the criminals. We ought to get firearms safety training and own a gun for the safety of our family.

Originally Posted by gunnerjacky

I have a deep hatred for the Police. They have this history of doing whatever they feel like. We cannot rely on police to protect us from the criminals. We ought to get firearms safety training and own a gun for the safety of our family.

You are a complete idiot and I really hope you stay in India or Boston, or wherever you are, and never come to New Zealand.

Originally Posted by gunnerjacky

I have a deep hatred for the Police. They have this history of doing whatever they feel like. We cannot rely on police to protect us from the criminals. We ought to get firearms safety training and own a gun for the safety of our family.

Then go to the US because your ideal society awaits you

Not here, sunshine

Originally Posted by gunnerjacky

I have a deep hatred for the Police. They have this history of doing whatever they feel like. We cannot rely on police to protect us from the criminals. We ought to get firearms safety training and own a gun for the safety of our family.

We have firearms safety training already and yet hunters shoot each other. Putting firearms in the hands of angry people in a tense situation is fucking stupid.

Where abouts do you live anyway ?

Probably just trolling