Thread: New Updated Arms Code 2017

Let's try and maintain a sense of decorum.

Just because a person is from X country doesn't necessarily mean that he / she agrees with or seeks to promulgate that country's firearm laws domestically.

Originally Posted by Ryan

Let's try and maintain a sense of decorum.

Just because a person is from X country doesn't necessarily mean that he / she agrees with or seeks to promulgate that country's firearm laws domestically.

This is true, but it is also true that there is a lot of ex poms in our police force/assn and the police force/assn seek to implement pommy type draconian firearm laws.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Sometimes as a customer you have to be more proactive and say something like hurry up and take my money!

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I did. Told him a 30-06 was an excellent choice as it could f%$# up anything from a field mouse to an elephant. Got my pack of subs and bailed.

Ryan , I am going to expose it simply for you:
If a Pom ( or a French in my case) is keen as on shooting and hunting where he comes from, usually he fits pretty well with the NZ gun system.
When the Pom is from uk police headquarters and moving here for the same job, he has most of the time been endoctrinated well enough where he come from to have a bit of shock when arriving here and discovering how the NZ gun system works.

Btw I still can't understand either how some senior staf from uk police manage to get here at similar position levels in the blink of an eye.
I reckon what ever position they held in the uk, they should start back from scratch bottom once arriving here in NZ and slowly work their way up. That would degrease the old fat pretty quickly.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Its the ex poms pushing for the disarmament! (no offence Pengy)

You know full well it takes more than that to offend this EX Pom

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

I couldn't pinch one off you? ;-) They seemed to have all vanished, I tried another police station on route to a job and no luck...

Sorry I need to keep them. We uploaded a digital copy here: https://www.docdroid.net/aRDYhK7/nzp...code4.pdf.html

Originally Posted by Gibo

Originally Posted by Danger Mouse

Ill make a point of not helping the plod if they need it. Sorry officer, didnt see which way the man went.

That's not very helpful to the rest of us either though, which is in essence why they are doing it in the first place.

And knowing a few police officers personally, from the conversations I've had with them on topics like this they seem to agree with most of us and be just as frustrated with the bureaucrats.

How would you justify this A cat?

Skoda Other T-55 Tank 1960 | Trade Me

Originally Posted by Steve123

How would you justify this A cat?

Skoda Other T-55 Tank 1960 | Trade Me

It is not a firearm as it has been disabled.....so essentially it is a fast but really shit bulldozer

Originally Posted by Steve123

How would you justify this A cat?

Skoda Other T-55 Tank 1960 | Trade Me

It saves time, no need to mince the animal.

I question the need to have a FAL to own that. Deactivated guns are specifically excluded in the arms act.

Originally Posted by Jexla

I question the need to have a FAL to own that. Deactivated guns are specifically excluded in the arms act.

I notice that no one is questioning the need to get one of these though...It might be a "fast but really shit bulldozer" but hey, why the hell not....?

Originally Posted by Jexla

I question the need to have a FAL to own that. Deactivated guns are specifically excluded in the arms act.

There is no such classification as a "deactivated firearm" and you will find no mention of such in the Arms Act 1983.

Originally Posted by Ryan

There is no such classification as a "deactivated firearm" and you will find no mention of such in the Arms Act 1983.

You're right, my bad.

It's mentioned in the arms code, which we know is not law.

Section 8.17 Deactivated Firearms:

1. Under United Kingdom legislation, firearms that have been deactivated to Government specifications and certified by a Proof House do not require the owner to possess a firearms certificate for the firearm.
2. NZ Law does not recognise the status of “deactivated”, on the basis that some of these “deactivated” firearms can be converted to live firing status by a competent machinist in a relatively short time.
3. The only situation where a firearm has been accepted as “deactivated” in New Zealand is where it has been sectionalised from end to end.



Still stupid though, where would you even get ammo for it?

Originally Posted by Jexla

You're right, my bad.

It's mentioned in the arms code, which we know is not law.

Section 8.17 Deactivated Firearms:

1. Under United Kingdom legislation, firearms that have been deactivated to Government specifications and certified by a Proof House do not require the owner to possess a firearms certificate for the firearm.
2. NZ Law does not recognise the status of “deactivated”, on the basis that some of these “deactivated” firearms can be converted to live firing status by a competent machinist in a relatively short time.
3. The only situation where a firearm has been accepted as “deactivated” in New Zealand is where it has been sectionalised from end to end.



Still stupid though, where would you even get ammo for it?

Probably have to handload for it.......I can see it now, 6542 grs powder, behind a 49,000 gr projectile imagine the fun doing load development......