Thread: New Updated Arms Code 2017

Yep there telling porky pies!
I'd hold onto that veitnamcam might be like those rear stamps that have been printed wrong but go into publication.
20years ago they got away with this Scott free!
Not this time guys get stuck in the future of our sports depends on it

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

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I didn't spot that on page 44. But while it is not word for word, it is very similarly written on page 41 in the first paragraph under the "Firearms Licence" topic. The one difference I did notice is in the section you show it states "Asked" where the page 41 statement states "required" as though it is mandatory.

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"A licence holder may possess any number of sporting-type rifles and shotguns although you will be required to justify the number of firearms you hold when Police inspect your security."

Also seems to be a new licence card design as featured on page 41.

As for me justifying why I have x firearms - I might ask them to justify the reasons they're asking in the first place.

Using a PDF document analyser it suggests to me that this file might have actually been created earlier than we'd like to think...


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Creator Adobe InDesign CC 2017 (Macintosh)

D:2017 (year) 03 (month) 06 (day)153304 (hh:mm:ss) +13'00' (GMT +13 = NZ time zone).

The above is based on my assumption that they're using American English regional settings (viz mm/dd) and / or U.S. dictionary (given that they have used the word "oriented" in the text as opposed to "orientated" I think this is entirely plausible).

EDIT: Online resource did okay but using Notepad++ and searching for dates I found creation date:


xmp:CreatorTool="Adobe Photoshop CC 2017 (Macintosh)"
xmp:CreateDate="2017-02-21T15:01:03+13:00"

Seems they've been cooking this up for a while.

Can't be any other date format, since 03 June hasn't arrived yet. Your assumptions seem correct.

Originally Posted by Ryan

Using a PDF document analyser it suggests to me that this file might have actually been created earlier than we'd like to think...


Trapped /False
ModDate D:20170306153304+13'00'
CreationDate D:20170306153256+13'00'
Producer Adobe PDF Library 15.0
Creator Adobe InDesign CC 2017 (Macintosh)

D:2017 (year) 03 (month) 06 (day)153304 (hh:mm:ss) +13'00' (GMT +13 = NZ time zone).

The above is based on my assumption that they're using American English regional settings (viz mm/dd) and / or U.S. dictionary (given that they have used the word "oriented" in the text as opposed to "orientated" I think this is entirely plausible).

EDIT: Online resource did okay but using Notepad++ and searching for dates I found creation date:


xmp:CreatorTool="Adobe Photoshop CC 2017 (Macintosh)"
xmp:CreateDate="2017-02-21T15:01:03+13:00"

Seems they've been cooking this up for a while.

Just more evidence that the tail wants to wag the dog.

Cheers
Pete

Originally Posted by Ryan

Seems they've been cooking this up for a while.

That has been my gut feeling but you have just proven to us all they are in fact; lying

Yet again obviously... But this one is a really really bad one. And, a TOTAL waste of tax payers money I might add, by-crikey this should go in the epic fail basket or something.

Question - Where in the law does it say you have to open your safe for the police to inspect your firearms? in relations to justifying your firearms

To give you some background - A friend of mine was asked last year when renewing his licence if he would open his safe, he asked why? they said to inspect his firearms for illegal guns "e-cats" and their serial numbers, he politely told them no as this was not the law or a requirement to procure a firearms licence, you can see that my security is of a high standard (has a rather large and heavy safe) and that it hasn't changed in the last 10 years and to get a warrant if they want to see whats inside. Of course they disputed this and tried to "politely convince him" stating this would have a bearing on whether they renew his licence and that he would have "a flag against his name". He stated that again this was not a requirement to get or renew a licence, they left and he got his licence a month later.

I think that when Nicolas Taylor is going to ask those questions to court in June he should be mentioning that part as well.
Because that will re enforce his argument that police are taking actions outside of what the law authorise them to do.

Tested, water cold, wrong version? To be withdrawn? Or am I wrong?

Anyone read the acknowledgements? I especially like the part "Police appreciate your interest and dedication to arms control"

It looks to me like they expected the law & order recommendations to go thru & they will be allowed to make it up as they please. What I'd like to know is what are the likes of Guncity, H&F, etc doing to keep our firearms rights as they stand to lose a lot if the police get there way?

Someone asked H&F and their position was neither here nor there. Looks like they don't want to get involved. I choose to do business with politically active dealers.

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Originally Posted by stretch

Someone asked H&F and their position was neither here nor there. Looks like they don't want to get involved. I choose to do business with politically active dealers.

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Views and opinions are like arse holes, everyone has one and they are not always the same. Can't believe you have decided to do your shopping based on the business that has the most political view point. And really but then again you have an arse hole just like me

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Is it is their business that's going to be adversely affected if the continued pernicious law change proposals are going to be passed. If they are being vocal and challenging these unlawful proposals and in turn helping look after my rights / privileges / whatever you believe them to be, then they will most certainly continue to receive my custom.