Thread: New week, new 'Ultra Vires' Police Action

Originally Posted by Jexla

As we've reported on before, Nick Taylor is starting legal litigation with police soon and asked people to donate towards that fund if they could, however legal litigation is only one method of fighting this. Like we saw with the pistol grip saga, the police lost and then went crying to the politicians and got what they described as a "loophole" patched. We've seen great success with the use of social media, and we will continue with that, but to be most effective we must expand our social media reach multitudes of where we're at now, as well as use other methods, many which require funding.


As with all government departments, single people don't get prosecuted, the whole department does.

One problem is tho that the type of person LAFO are are often not on any type of social media.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

One problem is tho that the type of person LAFO are are often not on any type of social media.

I agree to a point. Fact of the matter is we have less than 8k likes on facebook, and there's plenty of NZ shooting themed pages who are in the 10's of thousands.

There's over 240k licensed firearm owners, there's far more than 8k of them on facebook, without a doubt.

For those who are not on social media, we have our website with email alerts and we are active on another forum, we're yet to be offered a home here.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Signed up.

If the police are acting illegally then logically they can be prosecuted for said illegal actions? and if so why are the people at the head of the changes not finding themselves in prison? Who would prosecute them?

Indeed. I also suggested to the minister in my letter that; if whomever is making these decisions has that little regard for the law they are supposed to uphold that perhaps she should seek their resignation as they would no longer be fit for the job they are tasked with......

Nice work there Jexla, good to see some people are taking a more organised stance against Police HQ

Have you got that site auto feeding to twitter etc as well? Some people are very active there.

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

Have you got that site auto feeding to twitter etc as well? Some people are very active there.

Honestly we've not yet considered a twitter account as we've just set up on another forum and our website. Twitter isn't something I am personally familiar with so would require some learning on my behalf, but maybe that's something I can look into during my uni holidays in a few weeks.

We're currently considering what different legal entities would could morph into so we can take donations to help the cause and to use for things like sponsorship of events etc. We'd love to get merch such as tshirts, hats etc going. We're considering trying to get someone to put forward the money before that happens to get a bunch of artwork done for when that does happen and so we can get a new logo and have artwork for the website etc.

Originally Posted by Sideshow

Nice work there Jexla, good to see some people are taking a more organised stance against Police HQ

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Thanks Jexla. I don't subscribe to website often but this is important so it's in.

I don't bf, or rss so some sort of subscribe suits me well. I run a blog or two and it seems to be the preferred method on them as well.

I guess you could probably set up a weekly or monthly summary email option too? Depending how much effort that involves.

Originally Posted by GravelBen

I guess you could probably set up a weekly or monthly summary email option too? Depending how much effort that involves.

With the current system there's no way to automate that, it'd have to be manual and there's no way I'm doing that, especially with only a few signed up so far!

signed up.

I think a few LFAO's out there who have the mindset "it'll never happen to me" have had a shake up in recent weeks. Some are slowly but surely waking up to the madness.

The majority of people I don't think are heavily invested enough into shooting to have the desire to get pro active. That's not a dig that is just a reality. It is slowly changing though. People I know personally who haven't given a toss in past years have got off the fence this time.

another week another contradiction....

What was said
News and updates | New Zealand Police

What is now being said
http://www.founz.co.nz/wp-content/up...2017-07-19.pdf

Originally Posted by Skitsokiwi

another week another contradiction....

What was said
News and updates | New Zealand Police

What is now being said
http://www.founz.co.nz/wp-content/up...2017-07-19.pdf

Why is "what is now being said" dated six months before the date on the "what was said"?