Thread: OH FFS

Originally Posted by mikee

could it be that "man hit by car" does not sell as many papers as Man Shot" (accidentally or otherwise)

Not only is a death by motor vehicle not a big seller for the papers, it is simply something we have come to accept as almost the norm. Very sad

Originally Posted by Tommy

Like my neighbour: Went off the deep end at me when I offered (to the husband) to take them to the small bore range. Kids were like 8 and 10, would have loved it. Nope, she lost her shit in a big way. Same stupid bint drives her two kids around on bald-as-fuck tyres on both their vehicles (a Captiva and a Passat), for well over a year. The Captiva was so bad you couldn't see a tread pattern anymore. But no, I'm the devil. Unreal.

What a stupid tart, people like that have no idea. Clearly brain-washed by daytime tv.

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

What a stupid tart, people like that have no idea. Clearly brain-washed by daytime tv.

Bingo, they are employed in TV industry

Have you guys had a read through the comments at the bottom.
Really interesting most are anti the article and for the education of kids to be trained in the correct use of air guns.
I think that the comment page was disabled because Stuff was coming out look rather sad from there slanted view.

Here's a few.

"Chris Cahill of the Police association has actually been a god-send for licenced, law-abiding gun owners. His position is so extreme, his claims so unfounded, that I haven't seen firearms users so motivated and so well informed in my lifetime.
Take note of the comments, Stuff - vast majority are rational, reasonable and well informed rebuttals of your article. Perhaps you need to check your assumptions and check your privilege especially. You have fallen for misinformation, you have based an article on sensationalism not serious analysis. As you can see, its not hard to get the objective information."

"10 hours ago
nuts2u
There is no need for children to have guns. I don't like the idea and that's that. My opinion and I'm entitled to it, just as those are who disagree.
-14

10 hours ago
Scanman
My 11 year old daughter has been shooting since she turned 7, and has recently joined the local pistol club. She is now on her way to being able to shoot competitively. All this is her doing, she has been the driving force behind her shooting. I support her, firearms are safe when the right training is given in the right environment. She loves shooting and it is just one of her many sports. It has taught her discipline and respect which transfers to many aspects of life."

yes siree as long as we have fairrfax media ,sensationalism and scandal thats what does the selling and a gullible one eyed public love the shit.
of course its got its roots in the product laden tertiary training institutes where thease hack journos are being churned out by the load ,all breathless to infict themselves on someone or something!
the television media just as nauseating-witness the quenn of bile heather DPAs efforts.
Dave tipple -been at it that long any shit tossed at him is like water on a ducks back

I wish I could meet up with these anti gun morons and take them out to a range teach them gun safty and shoot some targets and then see what they think

Originally Posted by FatLabrador

I wish I could meet up with these anti gun morons and take them out to a range teach them gun safty and shoot some targets and then see what they think

They'd probably know why you're shooting targets, what did the targets ever do to you, and will the targets families receive counselling.

That c*ck sucking tabloid website IS the definition of fake news.
I've lost count of the number of 'urgent' media queries their fresh out of AUT journo school hacks have sent and then the bints ignore the actual facts we give them when published. Balanced story much?

I’m from Canada. I have a 7 year old and a 4year old. I’ve been in NZ for almost a year. I just an air rifle and I’m teaching my boys to handle it properly and responsibly and to shoot well. I’m very proud of their respect for the weapon and their ability to handle it. They will be supervised closely until they get their own firearms licenses. Hunting and shooting has been a huge part of my life since I was 7!
All to happy to pass it on to my family.

Since being in NZ and now getting my firearms license I’ve found NZ to have a very healthy view of guns for the most part. A proud heritage of hunting and shooting and a reasonable system for acquiring firearms.similar to Canada and yet I would say more reasonable. Not extreme on the controls but not all loose and irresponsible like the USA. I’m glad my boys can grow up in a free and fairly pro sporting culture where firearms are a useful and fun part of life and where the laws enable people to be responsible gun owners without being too restrictive.

I also appreciate that gun owners in NZ that I know are very informed people and active in the political realm. Far too many gun owners in Canada say nothing when misinformed anti gun people do things like this in the media!
This article was reasonably and thoughtfully responded to in the comments. I hope they also write similar letters to the editor at stuff so the media can understand that articles like this one don’t represent the opinions of kiwis the way the media might think!


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Did no-one spot the small shaft of light? A ray of hope, something sane to cling on to in that otherwise insane tabloid storm:

"Police Minister Stuart Nash said the gun seller advocated the safe use of firearms, including air rifles.

"I urge responsible ownership and support anything that promotes gun safety," Nash said. "

Originally Posted by gadgetman

My thoughts exactly.

People get run over on the roads, they teach road safety at school. People drown in rivers and ocean, they teach water safety and swimming. None of these things are asked to be banned. Firearms use used to be taught in schools.

People have been killed here with axes, hammers and baseball bats, yet trees, buildings and baseball have not been asked to be banned. There have been a number of deaths with trees falling on people in the logging industry and log cartage accidents where safety awareness in now being taken more seriously. Why is it that firearms, where comparatively there are few deaths, are there calls for so many more restrictions?

@gadgetman

Gun City should perhaps have urged parents to get their kids interested in guns, not for its own sake, but because it is a safer interest than pony riding, rugby, fast or slow cars, motorbikes, mountain bikes, skateboarding, couch fat kid potatoing etc.

One main reason that shooting is much safer is of course that most don't need reminders they easily kill.

actually from the moment youre born youre destined to die.humans creative wee bastards they are ,often suceed in hastening that process .nothing new to see there ,move on. actually ive given all my kids the chance to use firearms under my IMMEDIATE supervision but its not for them -i respect that .the mrs-bugger her outshot me more than once!.
despite it being my thing my kids are always security conscious and i must say more than once have bought along friends who want to become active in firearms or merely seek information.-Im more than happy doing eitherand provided the person/shas a modicum of commonsense alls generally well.
one iturned away ,a constant skullfullof dope and firearms do not mix FINITO

My wife has barely ever seen a gun, let alone held or fired one. I was always told I would NEVER be "allowed" any gun in the house.
I bought an air rifle for some varmint and target shooting and took it out to sight it in this weekend. When she first saw it on the bench she looked at it like it was going to explode spontaneously. After literally 5-10 minutes of showing her how to handle it, how to be safe and responsible with it and after she had fired just a few shots at the target she was different. She was more relaxed, confident and was enjoying herself while handling the rifle with care and respect. 5-10 minutes of knowledge and experience completely changed how she felt about guns.

Knowledge and experience. It can be hard to remain tolerant but remember, a lot of "anti-gun" people haven't had the benefit of that and the best gun owners are the ones who take the time to share theirs.

Like I always say; guns are dangerous, so the people taking care of them have to be safe.

Am i the only one who objects strongly to the Author's use of the word "Weapon"????

The article isn't even a full sentence in when they clearly state their bias. An airgun is not a 'weapon'. It hasn't been considered that since the days of Napoleon.
Anybody who calls an airgun a weapon should forfeit their privilege to own one. Its a tool for a specific need ie culling rabbits near your rural house or perhaps just entertainment at an airgun club.

It would be a crap 'weapon'. Imagine trying to use one for home defense, you'd use your precious 5 seconds to react and run for safety by loading a pellet??? Only piss off the intruder? Get real 'Stuff' author, lose the fantasy that any type of gun is for home defense, least of all an airgun.

Originally Posted by Dead is better

Am i the only one who objects strongly to the Author's use of the word "Weapon"????

The article isn't even a full sentence in when they clearly state their bias. An airgun is not a 'weapon'. It hasn't been considered that since the days of Napoleon.
Anybody who calls an airgun a weapon should forfeit their privilege to own one. Its a tool for a specific need ie culling rabbits near your rural house or perhaps just entertainment at an airgun club.

It would be a crap 'weapon'. Imagine trying to use one for home defense, you'd use your precious 5 seconds to react and run for safety by loading a pellet??? Only piss off the intruder? Get real 'Stuff' author, lose the fantasy that any type of gun is for home defense, least of all an airgun.

So that cop who was murdered with an airgun a few years ago, the airgun wasn't a weapon when it was being used to kill him?