Thread: oh shit

I hope all the officers are OK and recover well.

I hope the shooter gets the help he obviously needs.

I hope this incident doesn't negativity impact us licence holding, responsible, firearm owners

In that order.

Originally Posted by Ricochet

I hope all the officers are OK and recover well.

I hope the shooter gets the help he obviously needs.

I hope this incident doesn't negativity impact us licence holding, responsible, firearm owners

In that order.

Ricochet,

Re: Item 3 on your post. You can bet your balls the pollies & police will use this incident to have another go at us law abiding owners. Remember the nice trustworthy chaps & chapesses at bullshit castle have signed UN protocols to restrict & eventually deny civilian ownership of firearms!!! You only had to listen to silly (but dangerous) Annette King on TV last night. I gave her a serve in an email this morning but my words will be the usual waste of breath!!!! A few hundred more from others MIGHT get thru'!!!!????

My two cents worth.
Well it looks like you need a spokes person/organisation.
If you all paid a fee to said person/organisation then you could at least get on top of this.
You have slow firearms renewal!
Press persecution!
No parliament support!
You all spent a lot of your hard earned money, and every time someone loses it you get slammed.

So what would be a resonable sum per annum?
$80.00?
This is what I pay, taken out each month! Never miss it ok it's in pounds.
They have a media center to get straight in on shit like this to stop the knee jerk reactions!
They have a list of every standing politician, as well any runner, so you can write them and find out which way they stand. If there not for you the you don't vote for them. Yes it dose have an impact the politicians hate loss in those votes.
Here's the link!
http://basc.org.uk
Here we have a couple like this one.
But I think NZ is to small and one should cover it.
It would give you a voice that would be unified!
Oh and they are elected by you!

I can for see if you don't then your going to lose what you have. It happen in Aussey after Port Arthur, it happened in the UK after Hungerford, Dunblane!
And yes I am sure the the likes of SAFE read this blog!
Guys this is the modern world you need to get on top of it or it's going to come to you very fast

So again who would pay to keep your sport safe and not lose your privileges?

Guys, guys, guys! Before you reply to threads like this, just stop and think who might be reading these posts! H.du PA? We don't do ourselves any favours with comments like I have been reading on this scenario. A couple of comments though: firstly, St. John staff have a special team that works with Police SAR and AOS, called SERT (Special Emergency Response Team - I helped to train the inaugural team in Auckland. They are up to it. Secondly, how did highly trained AOS staff put themselves in the position of getting shot by a shotgun? How did that happen, specially after he Molenaar incident in Napier? And Greg O'Connor is banging on again about how crims get firearms? Really, Greg? Perhaps this offender has a F/a licence and a legit. firearm. Did you check Greg?. I guess this offender is fortunate that he doesn't reside in the USA. An offender there recently shot 2 Highway Patrol officers in the head after a routine traffic stop and fled. He was cornered by the local Police, and a gunfight ensued. He died. A TV reporter asked the local sheriff: " Sheriff, why were there 18 bullets found in this man's body?" The sheriff answered: "Well, that's all the ammunition we had available at that time".

Originally Posted by Ranger 888

Guys, guys, guys! Before you reply to threads like this, just stop and think who might be reading these posts! H.du PA? We don't do ourselves any favours with comments like I have been reading on this scenario. A couple of comments though: firstly, St. John staff have a special team that works with Police SAR and AOS, called SERT (Special Emergency Response Team - I helped to train the inaugural team in Auckland. They are up to it. Secondly, how did highly trained AOS staff put themselves in the position of getting shot by a shotgun? How did that happen, specially after he Molenaar incident in Napier? And Greg O'Connor is banging on again about how crims get firearms? Really, Greg? Perhaps this offender has a F/a licence and a legit. firearm. Did you check Greg?. I guess this offender is fortunate that he doesn't reside in the USA. An offender there recently shot 2 Highway Patrol officers in the head after a routine traffic stop and fled. He was cornered by the local Police, and a gunfight ensued. He died. A TV reporter asked the local sheriff: " Sheriff, why were there 18 bullets found in this man's body?" The sheriff answered: "Well, that's all the ammunition we had available at that time".

Now thats started my morning with a giggle!! Thanks

Hopefully I'm not going to bore you all to death????
Here's my email to silly Annette:

Dear Annette King,

I heard your comments on TV yesterday evening and wondered how a person with your experience & common sense could make such a statement???. You seemed to be repeating a similar silly statement made a few months ago by the Police Assn President O'Connor which ultimately led to the TV3 fraud/police impersonation debacle!!!!!

Here is a list of some ways that non-law abiding persons access illegal firearms. ( not ALL by any means!!)

1. They follow known law abiding firearm owners from shooting ranges to their homes & steal the firearms
at their leisure.

2. They have a legitimate member of their group who has a police issued firearms licence, who then is legally
able to purchase new or used firearms in the normal manner. That person would then be breaking the
law by handing the firearm over to a non-licenced person.No new law would change that,would it???

3. Well organised criminals have contacts within the worldwide network of gangs in Asia,middle east,etc and
when shipping vessels of certain types are legitimately in NZ waters near our coastline, waterproof containers
containing ALL sorts of illegal items are dropped into the sea with a marker not able to be seen from the sea surface,
accompanied by a GPS grid location & surprise surprise some enterprising scuba divers uplift the containers!!!!

4. Well organised gangs have squeaky clean members not known to police intelligence people who have no doubt infiltrated
firearm related clubs & perhaps even the police force where access to firearm owner's details is readily available & the
exact location of many many types of firearms are waiting to be stolen using the appropriate tools to un-secure them!!!!

So there are a few methods of how criminals or people of evil intent could get access to firearms. Tightening up on the laws that apply to us LAW ABIDING firearm owners would have NO affect on these types of criminal activities, as you undoubtedly have worked out for yourself.

REMEMBER: IF FIREARMS WERE OUTLAWED TOMORROW???? CRIMINALS WOULD STILL HAVE THEM!!!!

Please try to avoid the type of "knee jerk" comments that I heard you making last night & talk about practicable methods of dealing with criminals and the use of firearms in their illegal activities.

Here's a suggestion: How about a law that DOUBLES the sentence of an offender how has used a firearm in the
commission of a crime????? THAT might serve as a deterrent????? You might need a few more prisons but if they were built in the middle of an exposed south island remote location with VERY basic amenities there might not be so many candidates for a prolonged uncomfortable stay behind bars????


Yours Sincerely,

Dave M

P.S. I don't really expect a constructive sensible reply!!!!


A few similar ones to your favourite MP wouldn't do any harm.

Ever get much of a response other than generic 'thank you for your concern/enquiry/bringing to our attention' replies?

Originally Posted by Nibblet

Ever get much of a response other than generic 'thank you for your concern/enquiry/bringing to our attention' replies?

You should have a GOOD look at any type written response from bullshit castle as to the genuineness of the reply that you receive. 90% are standard format replies to which a date and a computer generated MP's signature is added i.e. "send this wanker standard reply #13"!!!! You also can tell by a different type face for the date & the non-original signature looks VERY suspect!!!!

Occassionally you will get the genuine article but don't hold you breath. The way to go is: keep at 'em 'til you get a sensible reply or CC a copy of your email to the team leader so the MP recipient knows that the boss knows. Sort of like blackmail!!!!

Look. Just because you are pretty doesn't mean people will always agree with you.
Your avitar is a pic of you, eh?

Originally Posted by Tahr

Look. Just because you are pretty doesn't mean people will always agree with you.
Your avitar is a pic of you, eh?

Only if everyone else's is a pic of them too?

Originally Posted by Jexla

Only if everyone else's is a pic of them too?

Originally Posted by Jexla

Only if everyone else's is a pic of them too?

Jexla, I think I can see a pattern here????? Tahr has one of "THOSE" senses of humour & he (she??) is taking the piss and trying to bait you!!!!( actually doing quite a good job too!!)

Suggest that you get down & dirty & fire a few back without hurting his/her feelings,eh

Originally Posted by top gun

Jexla, I think I can see a pattern here????? Tahr has one of "THOSE" senses of humour & he (she??) is taking the piss and trying to bait you!!!!( actually doing quite a good job too!!)

Suggest that you get down & dirty & fire a few back without hurting his/her feelings,eh

Ahh "trolling", the modern word for what we used to call people dicks, but now being a dick has become socially acceptable.

Originally Posted by Jexla

Ahh "trolling", the modern word for what we used to call people dicks, but now being a dick has become socially acceptable.

Is THAT really the best you can come up with?????? Try harder.

Originally Posted by Jexla

Only if everyone else's is a pic of them too?

I'm not sure which of the staff on here gave me a picture, ... but there is an uncanny resemblance. And I hadn't even heard of Inspector Gadget when I picked my name for a forum many moons ago.