Thread: Police arrest 2 for firearms offences - Feilding

A king cobra was recently sentenced for his part in a gunfight on a suburban street, and for possesion of a 3D printed FGC9 (9mm AR type pistol), and got ......... home detention

Sentencing is a real problem (from my perspective anyway). Just about no punishment would be a deterrent for true antisocial types. And stick them in prison and they get to big-deal with their own ilk which makes it worst not better. Put young offenders in prison and they become under the gang influence 24/7. Home detention for the hardened gang members seems joke. It’s a dilemma.

Prison serves, to a greater or lesser extent, 4 purposes.

1) Punishment. To me, sure. Prison would be a punishment - to your average Nomad/Mongrel/Black Power/who cares, not so much
2) Deterrence. See 1)
3) Rehabilitation. I know a psychologist who works in the prison service. It isn't great, and there aren't enough resources or people to do a worthwhile job for/on everyone. The success stories tend to be self selecting
4) Isolation from society. This one does work, but eventually (nearly) everyone gets out, and then we are all bitching about the lack of success in 3)

I used to be a fan of capital punishment, but over the years I've changed my mind. I now have a problem with handing the Government the power to do an unrecoverable act - there have been enough examples of malfeasance, bias and just incompetence that I'd rather pay for them to be put away - forever, if necessary.

For joe shithead, there really does need to be a way to get them out of the lifestyle that they live - and it isn't by doing what we currently are doing, that is for sure.

Originally Posted by Ross Nolan

Prison serves, to a greater or lesser extent, 4 purposes.

1) Punishment. To me, sure. Prison would be a punishment - to your average Nomad/Mongrel/Black Power/who cares, not so much
2) Deterrence. See 1)
3) Rehabilitation. I know a psychologist who works in the prison service. It isn't great, and there aren't enough resources or people to do a worthwhile job for/on everyone. The success stories tend to be self selecting
4) Isolation from society. This one does work, but eventually (nearly) everyone gets out, and then we are all bitching about the lack of success in 3)

I used to be a fan of capital punishment, but over the years I've changed my mind. I now have a problem with handing the Government the power to do an unrecoverable act - there have been enough examples of malfeasance, bias and just incompetence that I'd rather pay for them to be put away - forever, if necessary.

For joe shithead, there really does need to be a way to get them out of the lifestyle that they live - and it isn't by doing what we currently are doing, that is for sure.

I've seen a lot of guys go to prison Ross. Hand on heart I can tell you that every single one of them came out worse than when they went in.

I agree that what we are currently doing isn't working, but what alternative is there??

I like the fact that whilst they are in there, they can't do anymore damage to anyone. I've never seen any of them get rehabilitated. It just doesn't happen.

12 hours a day 7 days a week on a chain gang for a few years

Originally Posted by gonetropo

12 hours a day 7 days a week on a chain gang for a few years

I can see why you are in charge of the humour section on here

Originally Posted by gonetropo

12 hours a day 7 days a week on a chain gang for a few years

Plenty of cleaning up to do up North.

Originally Posted by Allizdog

Plenty of cleaning up to do up North.

It's such a shame the PC gang won't allow this to happen. Removing silt and slash would likely be their only positive contribution to society ever.

Yeah get the guns of the street they will find new ones. Get them off the street (permanently), problem solved.

Apparently making them wear pink in public works overseas. Public shaming and all that.

Originally Posted by No.3

Apparently making them wear pink in public works overseas. Public shaming and all that.

now between you and gone troppo you guys are onto it - many years ago I ran PD ( Periodic Detention ) in Opotiki they could work with me up the Waioeka gorge pulling out old fence lines or if they played up - sweep Opotiki streets - now they hated that so were happy to come out with me - they hated being seen in public - so dress these firearm bandits in pink - sweep streets by hand but only after serving at least 5 years for firearm offences

Outsource our prison sentences to Indonesia. Sentences to be served there. Bulk fund them.

nah...just make OZ back into a penal colony and send them over there..oh hang on a minute,thats already been tried and now apparently they can send them back...SO shouldnt that mean 90% of population should go back to old mother England where their ancestor came from??

Singapore has it sorted.
A public lashing on the bare buttocks with a rattan cane (wielded by a big man who doesn't hold back on the effort).
Seems that very few people ever reoffend again.

Originally Posted by Grey Kiwi

Singapore has it sorted.
A public lashing on the bare buttocks with a rattan cane (wielded by a big man who doesn't hold back on the effort).
Seems that very few people ever reoffend again.

Keep saying it but nobody wants to know... Pain is a great teacher!

Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin

Keep saying it but nobody wants to know... Pain is a great teacher!

nope Sue Bradford forever changed that from being OK..... and I shall say no more on that particular subject.....