Thread: Police Fire..... Bystander Safety?

Originally Posted by shooternz

The Police are trained to shoot centre mass they don't train them to shoot arms and legs that is too hard to pull off in a real shooting
situation, if they do hit low body, legs, or arms they have missed their target.

what he said.... a few years ago a scumbag escaped from custody down wellington way he was armed and had a hostage anyways cop shot him in the leg and he subsequently lost it.
i was told at the time by a cop that it was most likely his sidearm discharged before he had a bead on body mass (still bringing it up to aim) apparently the pistols they were using had a very touchy trigger and it was common even at the range to have premature discharge add to that the stress of the situation ......
i dont have a problem with police being armed but they do need more time at the range so they are more proficient in the use of their firearms...
as for the guy who heard the gunshots and took his daughter out to have a look............then moaned to the media about how they had to duck behind a hedge, .........idiot , he put his daughter in danger no-one else did

Sums it up really ...commonsense isn't that common anymore...

"We came running out to have a look ... they [police] were firing … whether it was shrapnel off the road flicking past us or whatever but it was really close and you could hear it hitting our fences and bouncing off the house. We could feel them flying past us."

Originally Posted by systolic

Where these the same Christchurch cops and bad man that our own brave 40mm was bagging last week from behind the safety of his keyboard?

https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....ng-cops-48219/

@systolic What is your problem asshole?

Originally Posted by 40mm

@systolic What is your problem asshole?

His blood pressure is too high

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

His blood pressure is too high

very good........... prompted me to google systolic to see what you meant
i learned something today

Originally Posted by 40mm

@systolic What is your problem asshole?

My problem is the the edit button has disappeared and I can't correct the spelling error in my post.








That and internet tough guys.

Originally Posted by scotty

what he said.... a few years ago a scumbag escaped from custody down wellington way he was armed and had a hostage anyways cop shot him in the leg and he subsequently lost it.
i was told at the time by a cop that it was most likely his sidearm discharged before he had a bead on body mass (still bringing it up to aim) apparently the pistols they were using had a very touchy trigger and it was common even at the range to have premature discharge add to that the stress of the situation ......
i dont have a problem with police being armed but they do need more time at the range so they are more proficient in the use of their firearms...
as for the guy who heard the gunshots and took his daughter out to have a look............then moaned to the media about how they had to duck behind a hedge, .........idiot , he put his daughter in danger no-one else did

I agree

I have no issue with the police having access to firearms when they need them. But I would like to see far more training in how to get the best out them when the situation calls for it. Practise, practise, practise. Once it is muscle memory, then they can concentrate on stopping the situation and not have to think about what is happening in their hands. It would be a far better use of Police funding than most of Cahills wish lists....

Originally Posted by timattalon

I agree

I have no issue with the police having access to firearms when they need them. But I would like to see far more training in how to get the best out them when the situation calls for it. Practise, practise, practise. Once it is muscle memory, then they can concentrate on stopping the situation and not have to think about what is happening in their hands. It would be a far better use of Police funding than most of Cahills wish lists....

If all the cops are doing gun training, who will deal with the robberies, domestics and mentals?

Originally Posted by timattalon

I agree

I have no issue with the police having access to firearms when they need them. But I would like to see far more training in how to get the best out them when the situation calls for it. Practise, practise, practise. Once it is muscle memory, then they can concentrate on stopping the situation and not have to think about what is happening in their hands. It would be a far better use of Police funding than most of Cahills wish lists....

The police do not require firearms training.
The purpose of armed police is power and control though creating fear.
That is the reason that the media always show you a bunch of police standing around armed with AR15 and Glock, when the incident is over. Firearms are never put away after the threat has disappeared but the opportunity is taken to impress upon the public, that police can kill or maim you with impunity.
The fear factor is higher when you know that when the guns come out, the stazi will hose down the neighbourhood indiscriminately.

@systolic Wanna have a cup of tea some time? ill bring some scones. i'd like to see if you are big and green.

Originally Posted by systolic

If all the cops are doing gun training, who will deal with the robberies, domestics and mentals?

Sweet, give em guns and stuff all training? you are a damn fool @systolic.

Originally Posted by systolic

If all the cops are doing gun training, who will deal with the robberies, domestics and mentals?

If they could shoot accurately and safely, maybe be we could allow them to kill more of these scum bags, without harm to others, Chris would be happy? No he wouldnt hes an out of his depth dickhead

Originally Posted by JWB

The police do not require firearms training.
The purpose of armed police is power and control though creating fear.
That is the reason that the media always show you a bunch of police standing around armed with AR15 and Glock, when the incident is over. Firearms are never put away after the threat has disappeared but the opportunity is taken to impress upon the public, that police can kill or maim you with impunity.
The fear factor is higher when you know that when the guns come out, the stazi will hose down the neighbourhood indiscriminately.

Yep scary when some young cop is standing there armed, knowing, unless hes into hunting and shooting, he probably not that capable

anyone remebver the guy shot by cops at intersection of hlaswell rd /hoonhay rd in chch afew years ago after he tooka women hostage with a knife .ive nursed himand his left wrist is kaput from a 9mmglock rd that somwhat unsuccesfully rearranged his wrist bone structure
that wrist now looks like a skin covered very inept case of fibreglassing.
I also knew a guy (via TF )who was ATS in the david grey saga ,and talking of shit luck later as a CHCH AOS member ,shot in the face by a 12g weilding psych patient holed up in a flat in fitzgerald ave. He was apparently point man in passage outside door when the hua let rip through it
infamous press photo of him clutching at his face and remnants of gas mask plus copious blood!
he survived but became anti gun.
Frankly i wouldnt have a cops job for quids if this is the trend .WTF-this misspent dose of gonad juice has fired on cops previously.
spare me the gut wrenching handwringing and SJWtears etcetc ,but if you decide to go cop shooting for macho fun,well it dont take einstein to realise chances are you could come off second best!!

Originally Posted by JWB

The police do not require firearms training.
The purpose of armed police is power and control though creating fear.
That is the reason that the media always show you a bunch of police standing around armed with AR15 and Glock, when the incident is over. Firearms are never put away after the threat has disappeared but the opportunity is taken to impress upon the public, that police can kill or maim you with impunity.
The fear factor is higher when you know that when the guns come out, the stazi will hose down the neighbourhood indiscriminately.

If they are expected to use firearms for any part of the job, of course they need training. I do not want someone given an AR15 to take to an armed incident and knowing the only information they have on how to use it is from a movie. They need quality time using it to get used to what it does etc. I do not expect a first time shooter to be able to shoot as wella sa varminter, but I would bloody well hope a cop would know his gear.