Thread: Police pushing firearms safety in mass media

Fair comments above ; still if public take more interest then there will be more chance of them actually listening to our side of the story as well.

i generally find the general public couldnt really give 2 shits now that topic is so last year now oh look covid

Originally Posted by Maca49

Spot on! Instilling fear, keeping it bubbling, wonder what else they are going to inflict on us?
COLFO should do the same for the police? Run an ad reminding them about random shooting in the station, storing and giving loaded firearms back, not securing firearms, leaving them in toilets and ranges, losing them on the roadside, not securing and having them stolen from stations, shooting themselves with pistols, not to do dodgy deals and inside sales, to follow the correct procedures when giving firearms licences.........maybe all police should have to sit FALs before being able to use.

Colfo doesn't have the stones. They want to be seen as the nice guy. That tactic is an exercise in futility

Originally Posted by Woody

Fair comments above ; still if public take more interest then there will be more chance of them actually listening to our side of the story as well.

But who's telling them our side of the story ?
All they see or hear is police/govt side with all these ads being thrust upon them from every angle such as those that are going around now .
We are all redneck gun freaks on the verge of going on a rampage as far as most of the public are concerned . Just look at all the fuss over gun shops opening or even just signage , firearms advertising , even transport of firearms by courier ....
Removing firearms based sports from major competition events and so on....
And now with the push towards veganism ....
No need for a rifle to hunt cabbage and carrots....

In rural areas we are vulnerable. There has been two serious home invasions here in rece t years; one resulting in the murder of a farmers wife and another where a whole family was threatened with death unless they handed over credit cards and keys to firearms safe. More recently I had two young men enter our property wanting to assault, high on dopeand another screaming threats at our gate. Police are 26 km away. Locals have community patrols now. This sort of stuff is escalating. I now keep certain sefensive hand weapons around the home (not firearms).

Originally Posted by Woody

In rural areas we are vulnerable. There has been two serious home invasions here in rece t years; one resulting in the murder of a farmers wife and another where a whole family was threatened with death unless they handed over credit cards and keys to firearms safe. More recently I had two young men enter our property wanting to assault, high on dopeand another screaming threats at our gate. Police are 26 km away. Locals have community patrols now. This sort of stuff is escalating. I now keep certain sefensive hand weapons around the home (not firearms).

Black Powder cannons don't need a licence if I'm right...reload times are a bit of an issue, but grape shot should sort that (joke! wokes)

So everyone who says the store bolts separately, Do you remove the fuel from your car, ute, motorbike, tractor, boat between uses? your house contents when your not home?
In my opinion a locked house, car or approved safe is just that -locked.

Just interested as I heard a yarn about a firearms burglary a little while back, bad guys had a coke bottle of petrol and lighter, squirted the Mrs. of the house thru the security door, safe was opened real fast.
The point being approved security or not, bolts in or out, they all would be forcibly handed over (unless you don't like your Mrs anymore )

Originally Posted by XR500

Black Powder cannons don't need a licence if I'm right...reload times are a bit of an issue, but grape shot should sort that (joke! wokes)

You need canister shot - more projectiles than grape!

This wouldnt happen to be hate speech about theives woul it??? Naughty naughty

Reminds me of a stick-on bumper label I found in Canada a few years ago in a workshop.
"DON'T STEAL; THE GOVERNMENT HATES COMPETITION".

Originally Posted by tetawa

Would be keen for adds warning the thief what is coming your way for stealing firearms, 5-10 years, forgot we are in NZ, 10 hours community service, and it's not your fault your a thief.

But if you offend the thief, 5-10 for you.....

Originally Posted by Woody

In rural areas we are vulnerable. There has been two serious home invasions here in rece t years; one resulting in the murder of a farmers wife and another where a whole family was threatened with death unless they handed over credit cards and keys to firearms safe. More recently I had two young men enter our property wanting to assault, high on dopeand another screaming threats at our gate. Police are 26 km away. Locals have community patrols now. This sort of stuff is escalating. I now keep certain sefensive hand weapons around the home (not firearms).

tape a short 12 gauge under the kitchen table and one under the bed, you never know when rabbits are about

Rabbits are'nt the problem. It's zombies.

You guys are getting sidetracked.

Arms regulations 1992:

the holder, where he or she has both a firearm and am- munition for it in his or her possession, either—
(i) shall take reasonable steps to ensure that the am-
munition is not stored in such a way that a person who obtains access to the firearm also obtains ac- cess to the ammunition; or
(ii) shall ensure that, where the ammunition is stored with the firearm, the firearm is not capable of being discharged:

Has this been updated recently ?

Sure, you don't legally have to keep your bolt and ammo stored separately but it's reasonable that you do and the police want to encourage you to. It's a safety drawback of some types of firearms that you can't take the bolt out and store it separately.

Part of the agenda here will be to discourage opportunistic thefts by raising expectations that stealing a firearm won't yield a useable weapon or its ammunition. Your own family (specially your children) are the ones most likely to get hold of your gun and have an accident, so if you want them to feel safe, let them know its stored safely too.

Originally Posted by Bagheera

You guys are getting sidetracked.

Arms regulations 1992:

the holder, where he or she has both a firearm and am- munition for it in his or her possession, either—
(i) shall take reasonable steps to ensure that the am-
munition is not stored in such a way that a person who obtains access to the firearm also obtains ac- cess to the ammunition; or
(ii) shall ensure that, where the ammunition is stored with the firearm, the firearm is not capable of being discharged:

Has this been updated recently ?

Sure, you don't legally have to keep your bolt and ammo stored separately but it's reasonable that you do and the police want to encourage you to. It's a safety drawback of some types of firearms that you can't take the bolt out and store it separately.

Part of the agenda here will be to discourage opportunistic thefts by raising expectations that stealing a firearm won't yield a useable weapon or its ammunition. Your own family (specially your children) are the ones most likely to get hold of your gun and have an accident, so if you want them to feel safe, let them know its stored safely too.

They could have some manners and ask nicely? Or is that approach just for the crims?