Thread: Pot shots with a 308

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

This is not one accidental discharge, the guy was shooting at their house and then their car. This is not like simple drunk driving it's trying to mow people down with a car while drunk. FFS if he still has his license then the Judge and the police involved should be all fired.

What makes you think he might still have a firearms licence?

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

Well if you, I, or anyone else don't know what is in his job description, why are you suggesting he may need his firearms licence for his job?
There are hundreds of farm employees in NZ who have no need for a firearms licence.
If you read and understood my statement you would have realised my comment was regarding the job description for his replacement, not him.

Who said he's being replaced?

Originally Posted by systolic

What if part of his job was shooting rabbits, possums, goats, deer and other pests? And home killing stock?

Who knows what his boss pays him to do?

Highly unlikely on a dairy farm at Kaihere. The odd goat and deer in the hills but not on the plains, and very few people process their own homekill cattle.
And euthanising stock can be done with a captive bolt gun, which doesn't require a FAL. Increasingly common on dairy farms now.

Originally Posted by kotuku

hmmm-just finished reading the book on stan graham a coast cockie who went on a shooting spree in 1941-got pissed off with neighbours rest is tragic history.The pair had more than a few similarities in their behavioural traits which it appears some are oblivious to.where chris bloody cahill head police union twerp in all of this .suprised he didnt offer an opinion,or does he lack the spine.

@kotuku Good to see wasn't the only one that cottoned onto the reference about "bad blood" in the article. I actually thought that was in pritty bad taste from the jurno that wrote it

Originally Posted by Sideshow

@kotuku Good to see wasn't the only one that cottoned onto the reference about "bad blood" in the article. I actually thought that was in pritty bad taste from the jurno that wrote it

The expression 'bad blood' is very common one in relation to a feeling of ill will, anger, or hostility between people. Hard to how using it can be in bad taste when referring to this incident, just because of a 36 year old movie about another mental farmer with guns.

Originally Posted by systolic

The expression 'bad blood' is very common one in relation to a feeling of ill will, anger, or hostility between people. Hard to how using it can be in bad taste when referring to this incident, just because of a 36 year old movie about another mental farmer with guns.

go read the bloody book you fool-jesus wept "mental farmer"-what bloody decade are you from???no wonder people give you grief!

well spoken from the profession of "thieving lawyers??'
betcha that fucking adjective put a crease on the other side of the undershot chin!!

Originally Posted by systolic

What makes you think he might still have a firearms licence?

I don't but that's why I used the word IF It was my response to your Trolling/Speculating

Originally Posted by systolic

He might need to keep it for his job.
Hard to work on a farm without one. Not much point in making him jobless and making his family suffer.

Originally Posted by systolic

The expression 'bad blood' is very common one in relation to a feeling of ill will, anger, or hostility between people. Hard to how using it can be in bad taste when referring to this incident, just because of a 36 year old movie about another mental farmer with guns.

Guess you should have gone to speck savers then!

Originally Posted by systolic

The photo is of a SKS or SKK 7.62x39mm rifle in a Dragunov stock. Not a .22. IT IS a MSSA.

The photo was taken from Stubbings' Facebook page. That's why they used it.

Not really. That is WHAT they used and WHERE they found it - not the same as answering WHY they used it.

We don't know for certain WHY they used it, but it may be reasonably deduced from the (intentional) effect of the article.

The use of the image in this article, with its MSSA caption, has the effect of suggesting a guy used a .308 MSSA against his neighbours.

The motivation behind this could be just because the journalist's integrity has been prostituted to sensationalism... or because of some Australian type gun control agenda which no inconvenient fact must stand in the way of... or both.

Originally Posted by Cordite

Not really. That is WHAT they used and WHERE they found it - not the same as answering WHY they used it.

We don't know for certain WHY they used it, but it may be reasonably deduced from the (intentional) effect of the article.

The use of the image in this article, with its MSSA caption, has the effect of suggesting a guy used a .308 MSSA against his neighbours.

The motivation behind this could be just because the journalist's integrity has been prostituted to sensationalism... or because of some Australian type gun control agenda which no inconvenient fact must stand in the way of... or both.

Probably just easier to cut and paste the photo. Just like the photo of Stubbings is taken from Facebook too.

Makes more sense than a conspiracy against guns, gun owners or shooting in general.

Originally Posted by systolic

Probably just easier to cut and paste the photo. Just like the photo of Stubbings is taken from Facebook too.

Makes more sense than a conspiracy against guns, gun owners or shooting in general.

You could be correct. It may not be a conspiracy against guns. You may have inadvertently stumbled onto the truth. Its a millennial conspiracy against having to make an effort to find the truth....if its in face book it must be true, besides it's too hard to actually find out facts.....The true conspiracy of presenting poorly edited and written articles in the hope that we will accept the lower standards and reward them for doing half the job they are supposed to be doing.

Originally Posted by timattalon

You could be correct. It may not be a conspiracy against guns. You may have inadvertently stumbled onto the truth. Its a millennial conspiracy against having to make an effort to find the truth....if its in face book it must be true, besides it's too hard to actually find out facts.....The true conspiracy of presenting poorly edited and written articles in the hope that we will accept the lower standards and reward them for doing half the job they are supposed to be doing.

"Conspiracy" is a word I did not use, and I agree with you, Systolic, that it would not fit.

It is more, as @timattalon says, sloppiness. Maybe deliberate when it suits? A lot of very clever people hide behind fake poor use of the English language to mislead rather than outright lie.

As for motivation, the spirit of our time, the Zeitgeist, has it as the popular and "the done thing" for many (but not all) journalists to poop on gun owners.