Thread: ReLicensing question - Section L

Originally Posted by No good names left

That sounds more like a want rather than a need
As long as both have the same license there shouldn't be an issue, same as me storing rifles for a mate.

My brother has a spare key for my safe and I know the combo for his, just in cast of emergency.

They made a fuss about it and I wasn't in a position to challenge. Keep them happy.
Plus it meant more room for "all sorts of items"

Originally Posted by Gibo

Unless your wife has a FAL, she should not have access to/knowledge of location of, the safe key

Hell yeah. No way do you want the wife knowing what's in there.

So hold on, do we need to see vetters FALs before we give them information about our storage?

Originally Posted by vulcannz

So hold on, do we need to see vetters FALs before we give them information about our storage?

That would probably fall under the same rules as the Military and Police where no license required for firearms stuff while on duty.

All of this stuff is VERY similar to what I see on the UK deerstalking and firearms sites - and very little of it is good. Stand by for ammo restrictions, licenses to reload ammo, pressure testing (for your safety) reloaded ammo, proof testing rebarreled rifles, all sorts of bullshit yet to be dreamed up by some polyester short wearing pencil necked wanker in Wellington..

I'll be very happy to find out in 20 years that I was just chicken little and worrying about nothing, but I don't think that will be the case.

I keep safes Keyes in another safe with a combo lock due to worrying that a burglar could find Keyes when away for extended times, got the spare key to the combo safe screwed onto a roof rafter in a very hard to reach spot.

Originally Posted by cambo

I made it very clear to the vettor that my family have the same access to my safe as the vetter does to his bosses wife snatch.
He knows exactly where it is but doesn't have access or permission to get into it.

Also they wanted my son had to have a separate safe for his FAL with no access to mine, and vise versa for me.

Weird, my wife used my safe for her FAL.
She didn't know where the key was or have access until she received her FAL

Originally Posted by MB

Yes, totally, I hide my keys all the time from my wife.

You don't want her finding out what toys you have bought without getting her permission first? Does your finance
minister wear the pants in your house? Lol

I renewed my license last winter.

Questions of access to our property weren't onerous as it is my son (with his own FAL) and my wife (no FAL).
My wife knows were the safes are and doesn't know what the safe keys look like let alone where they are stored.
My son knows what the keys look like and where the back up set is stored.

The questions the vetter asked my wife and referee were about my mental health - nothing related to firearms safety.

When the vetter checked the safes he felt for bolt heads in the safes without checking if bolts were attached and without seeing if the safes were bolted down. (I could have just glued bolt heads inside the safes.)

The vetter agreed that unless you use a bank safe the gun safes will only keep a casual thief away. An 18V cordless grinder with cutting wheel will make short work of many gun safes possibly without disturbing the neighbours.

An 18V cordless grinder with cutting wheel will make short work of many gun safes possibly without disturbing the neighbours.

Correct: Hiding them is a much better option, the safe is there to keep the Vettor happy. If they can't be seen/found the can't be stolen. A safe in and of itself is an invitation. Originally the safe was to prevent children gaining access in Firearms Safety Legislation, it is Police narrative that has changed.

My understanding is that the licience holder should have access ( ie keys ) to the safe hidden/unknown from any other unlicensed holder living in or has access to the house. That is"reasonable" in my opinion.