Thread: Semi Autos - Possible Interesting Development

I don t own any semi's but think this is bullshit.

Any of you literate law/politics understanding type people going to post up something us semiliterate non law/politics understanding types can copy paste/add remove bits so we can lobby?

cos lets face it you dont want me or half of the rest of us spouting off incoherent misspelled unpunctuatted drivel cos it will just make us look bad as a whole.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

I don t own any semi's but think this is bullshit.

Any of you literate law/politics understanding type people going to post up something us semiliterate non law/politics understanding types can copy paste/add remove bits so we can lobby?

cos lets face it you dont want me or half of the rest of us spouting off incoherent misspelled unpunctuatted drivel cos it will just make us look bad as a whole.

Very well said VC.

gundoc would be qualified to comment here based on his "starring" when the plods hamfisted attempts to classify MSSA's by a freestanding pistolgrip alone was challenged in the courts.
Justice Jillian Mallon made no bones about kicking police arse in her judgement -all 33 pages of it.
the crux of it is simple
POLICE are not judge jury and executioner-poli's make laws ,courts interperet them -police act on those interpretations,and she was crystal clear on this.

I imagine that if they were going to go down this route it would exclude rimfire and shotguns because of the many reasons mentioned here.

Originally Posted by Jexla

I imagine that if they were going to go down this route it would exclude rimfire and shotguns because of the many reasons mentioned here.

Indeed. They wont want to target what the crims are actually using as that will simply create a difficult workload. Better to concentrate on those that will probably comply......Less effort needed for stats to look good for the bosses.

If I get a spare moment this week I will tally up the 100 most recent entries into the arms book at work into semi-auto A cats. and other A cats, but my guess at the moment is about 30% semi's. Multiply that even by the conservative estimate from the 1990's of 1,000,000 firearms in NZ, and you have 300,000. Imagine the poor cops/arms officers being told that:
"Right lads, were looking to track down an unknown number of firearms, probably about three hundred thousand, we need to get the owners to register them but we have no idea who has what so here is a list of the 250,000 license holders. Hop to it."

Having said that, I have met a guy who made his own safe and the door is double-skinned.
He filled the void with gunpowder and the outer skin is fairly light so the explosion would go outwards were anyone to try getting into it with a grinder.

Probably illegal but would certainly be gratifying

Originally Posted by 308

Having said that, I have met a guy who made his own safe and the door is double-skinned.
He filled the void with gunpowder and the outer skin is fairly light so the explosion would go outwards were anyone to try getting into it with a grinder.

Probably illegal but would certainly be gratifying

A big ass sticker on the door saying "WARNING, GUNPOWDER" and technically it's no longer a man trap?

Originally Posted by Tommy

A big ass sticker on the door saying "WARNING, GUNPOWDER" and technically it's no longer a man trap?

HAHA you could just say. But "Your Honor" I thought it was the safest place to store my powder! Look I even put a sticker on it!

Originally Posted by 308

Having said that, I have met a guy who made his own safe and the door is double-skinned.
He filled the void with gunpowder and the outer skin is fairly light so the explosion would go outwards were anyone to try getting into it with a grinder.

Probably illegal but would certainly be gratifying

Have heard story's of people storing there powder on the back of strong room doors etc.

I really like the thinking behind it but the crims can have my guns rather than me ending up in jail after a successful mantrap activation.

I'll just have to stick to strong storage that's has alarms-the company knows to ring the police of it goes off


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Originally Posted by res

Have heard story's of people storing there powder on the back of strong room doors etc.

I really like the thinking behind it but the crims can have my guns rather than me ending up in jail after a successful mantrap activation.

I'll just have to stick to strong storage that's has alarms-the company knows to ring the police of it goes off


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Yes unfortunately in the PC society we live in that is the reality. Don't really want to burn my house down either, you can bet insurance wouldn't pay for it. The sad fact is you become the baddie defending what is yours.

When they banned semi autos in Australia plumbers sold out of large plastic pipe and end caps .Normal story make life hard for law abiding citizens criminals get busted with illegal firearms what do they have to lose nothing .In this day and age if you have the money you can get anything you want the law only works for the people who live by them

Originally Posted by sometimes

When they banned semi autos in Australia plumbers sold out of large plastic pipe and end caps .Normal story make life hard for law abiding citizens criminals get busted with illegal firearms what do they have to lose nothing .In this day and age if you have the money you can get anything you want the law only works for the people who live by them

this is particularly apt cause I read recently somewhere that aussie "authorities" are complaining about container loads of assorted AK47 type arms entering the country illegally,and them being apparently unable to figure a modus operandi to counter this
.mind you given theaussie polis antics over there in last 2yrs Id be buggered if i could figure out a decent way to even govern aussie sensibly

Firearms Community Advisory Forum Minutes | New Zealand Police

The May 2016 FCAF minutes can be found here. Some "interesting" comments from police here, IMO indicating a change of attitude towards our firearms control regime. I'll let you all think for yourselves but to me it seems they are keen for universal registration and the way they talk about semi autos is like they already don't consider them sporting firearms.

Still like to know what the fuck is a sporterized MSSA.