Thread: Sick of it all. Off to war.

Very good then.

Originally Posted by Sidney

Given the public perception, I am a lone voice....

its all just so sloppy, and I reserve the right to exercise my grumpy old man about the idiotic public perception fed by stupid media that somehow everyones opinions matter. Accurate, relavent and competant opinions matter... the rest is just useless white noise, that demeans relevant contribution and promotes misunderstanding.

Now while firearms ownership is a legal right, I choose to think of it as both a priviledge and a responsibility. That promotes me to be careful and thankful for our legally recognised freedoms.

But don't let some knobby policeman tell me that my legal rights are a priviledge exercised at their discretion. Wrong, they are agent for society to ensure that I meet the requirements of the law in order for me to be granted my rights under the law.

The finer points of that are of course lost on the masses with opinions.

Now how does it pan out when the white noise makers without accurate, relevant and competent opinions are the elected members making the laws?

Gee you lot are turning me into a cynic. Bad form!

Originally Posted by Sidney

perhaps after you have explained how I am not wrong but not right and offered reasons for that....I might actually agree with you about a lot of people....

but that doesn't change what reality is irrespective of how you want to feel about it...perceptions are not the measure by which the law is applied....

and you ain't got a mandate on the real world either...

You not wrong and your not right, you just express an opinion as have I! The law, in my opinion, is applied by a lot of weak knee , out of touch judges!!

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

If you drink the whisky with out the e in it then you will mix it work water and leave the coke in the fridge.

Now while my uncle would agree with you, my father insisted that the water was only for putting under bridges and boats.

I'll have the Coke.

Originally Posted by Rushy

Very good then.

You would have enjoyed those Sunday school Rushy, I was very privileged to be in the same room!

Originally Posted by gadgetman

Now while my uncle would agree with you, my father insisted that the water was only for putting under bridges and boats.

I'll have the Coke.

Sniff it up!!

Originally Posted by Maca49

You not wrong and your not right, you just express an opinion as have I! The law, in my opinion, is applied by a lot of weak knee , out of touch judges!!

No.. and I am pretty sure that you have missed the point.... I offered an opinion based on knowledge and capacity, and on any sensible analysis on what I offered, it is correct.

You on the other hand offer no evidence, facts or information that can be relied on to form a legitimate opinion. You only have a perception based on random unqualified pieces of media information, you offer no statistical understanding and no apparent understanding that media reports are based on statistically extreme pieces of information and bear no real reflection of the day to day situations, and normal performance.

You apparently have no ideal that our prison populations are at the highest levels ever and our offending rate/1000 people has been dropping consistently for years as well as has the total offences reported. (At least up to 2012). That don't sound like weak kneed judges to me, unless of course your argument was that they are obviously weak kneed because they respond to political and public perceptions, even when the stats apparently don't require it. But I am pretty sure that isn't what you meant.

So what you know about the normal day to day work done by judges in this country doesn't appear to stack up. Based on what I know, you have a pretty weak case for your latest attempt at a legitimate opinion.

Poorly created and uninformed perceptions aint opinions. The're just feelings.

Originally Posted by gadgetman

Now how does it pan out when the white noise makers without accurate, relevant and competent opinions are the elected members making the laws?

Gee you lot are turning me into a cynic. Bad form!

Media and pollies try to manage public perceptions, cause with numbers it doesn't actually matter whats right and wrong. When they fail they get get Trump. And he aint wrong about fake news, hes just too stupid to know that he's the worst at it.

What do they say... ? we live in a "post truth society."

Fukn hell @Maca49 have you failed to submit all appropriate documentation and and signed and witnessed checked by a lawyer to have an opinion

Its not Maca...

its everyone.... he was just the trigger....

I'm sorry Maca...

Your RIGHT Sidney, feelings, gut feelings, developed over 67 yrs of experience, no crap! Beats the theory boys of the world most times!
Of course today we are breeding that type of thinking from the world and running on smoke, mirrors and fairy dust!

Originally Posted by Sidney

Its not Maca...

its everyone.... he was just the trigger....

I'm sorry Maca...

Don't be sorry, I meet people like you most days sad to say, cost a fortune, take ages and del SFA, just my humble opinion, don't take offence!

Originally Posted by northdude

Fukn hell @Maca49 have you failed to submit all appropriate documentation and and signed and witnessed checked by a lawyer to have an opinion

I think it's based on an extension of the RMA!

I wouldn't assume that you know who I am Maca or what I can deliver... that sounds like another unsubstantiable opinion...

Originally Posted by Maca49

I think it's based on an extension of the RMA!

Umm what's that