Thread: suppressor failure

Why do you even bother with a can @gimp ? Only worthwhile if you are putting a lot down range? If you moan about 400 grams well fuck, why bother???

The really light suppressors get rid of some noise but they are still in the dB range that damages hearing.
If it doesn't drop the dB range enough, you are just carrying weight for no purpose other than looks.

Originally Posted by jim160

The really light suppressors get rid of some noise but they are still in the dB range that damages hearing.
If it doesn't drop the dB range enough, you are just carrying weight for no purpose other than looks.

I just can't agree with that, even though I can see where you are coming from.

Hearing damage is not a on or off thing so even if it's in the damage zone it's still better to be lower down in it.
If you're deciding to use muffs or more likely earplugs instead of a can then they are very unlikely to drop you all the way down into the safe zone.

Even with a good can I'll use hearing protection if there is time, have lost way to much already and most of its is shooting related.

Suppressors are awesome, however soon people will realise that they are a specific purpose item, you need to match the unit to the type of hunting or shooting you do (Iv tested and popped with realitive ease most Suppressors if not all available in NZ)
As a rule of thumb if you have an AR15 or AR10 stay away from anything that is not stainless steel UNLESS!! And this is important) if you are going to purely hunt with it and sustain a rate of fire similar to your average bolt gun all the lightweight units are just fine.

I currently have a cheap light aluminium can on my M&P 10 as I needed to keep the weight down but often find myself hunting without hearing protection and while it's not the quietest unit I'm still very happy it's on instead of a 308 blasting 14.5 inches from my face.

What about lightweight alloy suppressors on magnum calibres? Are they really going to last with the extra velocity, powder burn and pressure from a magnum?
Steel suppressors will be too heavy to carry round especially on an alpine rig, which is why I just use a muzzle break instead.
Like you say Dr Watson, they have a specific purpose.

D Watson, i think the same but would be pissd carrying your AR in the scrub with its mag and sling up top in the way

Why are suppressors weights such a major topic. They aren't much in the total weight package are they? Then there is the fact that I'd probably loose the equivalent of five or ten suppressors worth of weight if I dieted for a month

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Originally Posted by 338 man

D Watson, i think the same but would be pissd carrying your AR in the scrub with its mag and sling up top in the way

Yeah I mostly hunt with a 5 rnd ... Also I pretty much shoot something everyday with this rifle... Is it better to carry than a tikka hacked off with a can ? No probably not... But shooting isn't a novelty activity for me and if I'm going to shoot a rifle everyday.. It's not going to be something lame.

That said its only a little over minimum length, when it's on my back it sits flat upside down... The stock sits below the top of my shoulder and the can doesn't really protrude past my right hip... Not the best, but not too bad

Originally Posted by smidey

Why are suppressors weights such a major topic. They aren't much in the total weight package are they? Then there is the fact that I'd probably loose the equivalent of five or ten suppressors worth of weight if I dieted for a month

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I was thinking if a suppressor is too heavy to carry, how will they get their animal home.....Our ears and our eyes are precious. The damage cannot be undone. Look after them when you have them and you may get to keep them....

Originally Posted by smidey

Why are suppressors weights such a major topic. They aren't much in the total weight package are they? Then there is the fact that I'd probably loose the equivalent of five or ten suppressors worth of weight if I dieted for a month

Sent from my workbench

Here's the thing with weight ...
It adds up.

"It's not much in the over all package" can be said for almost all of the parts of your gun.

Anyone who has tried to make a light set up will understand the way weight can get away from you.

Also the suppressor hangs on the end of the barrel any weight is multiplied because of the leverage it has on you.

Originally Posted by Dr. Watson

But shooting isn't a novelty activity for me and if I'm going to shoot a rifle everyday.. It's not going to be something lame.

That said its only a little over minimum length, when it's on my back it sits flat upside down... The stock sits below the top of my shoulder and the can doesn't really protrude past my right hip... Not the best, but not too bad

Lame? I shoot every day. Lame is something that costs more than a howa or cheap shotgun.
As for this over the back, you don't kill shit with a rifle there.

One thing most have missed, the weight of a stainless can helps in offhand shooting. Hell, it helps in most positions.

"Lame is something that costs more than a howa or cheap shotgun."


... Ummm ... I was going to write a lengthy response but with statements like that where do I start?

As for trying to convince hunters they are better off with heavy stainless lumps on their hunting rifles...

Good luck!

you might be shovelling the poop up hill with that one

Most of them struggle to justify a can. Unless your firing more than a couple of shots at a time what's the point? At the range you use muffs.

For me they are easy to justify though as are electronic muffs for shot gunning.
If you are into walking it in long range is a can needed? Muffs would do the job.

It's almost like people have different opinions, preferences or priority's.