Thread: surrender your FAL

Originally Posted by no1_49er

No, you'll have to do better than that.
The current iteration is version 4.0, dated 30 Nov 2022.

It says V4 on front page, which I assume is version 4. Published July 2022 and on Police website August 2022.

Originally Posted by jackson21

It says V4 on front page, which I assume is version 4. Published July 2022 and on Police website August 2022.

Rather than upload a now out of date document, I would suggest that the better option is to provide a link to the current version which in this instance is version 4.0 dated 30 Nov 2022, here https://www.firearmssafetyauthority....transportation "Your" version has a blue title page; the current one is green.
Don't blame me; I'm only the messenger.

firearms-secure-storage-guidance (6).pdf

Latest version

There is no reason he cannot install a gunsafe in his flat, permission from the landlord or property manager is not required.
He will have to make good any holes etc when he leaves

If it introduces a dynamic into the flat, that might be another issue

Originally Posted by imaca

There is no reason he cannot install a gunsafe in his flat, permission from the landlord or property manager is not required.
He will have to make good any holes etc when he leaves

If it introduces a dynamic into the flat, that might be another issue

Sorry but you are wrong, the landlord can deny you permission to install a gunsafe.

Originally Posted by Percy Jones

Sorry but you are wrong, the landlord can deny you permission to install a gunsafe.

Just put a gun rack up hidden in a cupboard somewhere. I wouldn't even ask really. Never did when we were renting. Had a big safe in a cupboard. Regular inspections and they never even looked in any cupboard and they shouldn't really. We just made sure it was all tidy and back to how it was when we bought our own house.

I'm laughing my son's a carpet layer by trade everytime I move house we just lift the carpet bolt the safes in the wardrobe and when I moved he puts the carpet back in doesn't look any different than the day we moved in

I know of two people who are doing that very thing right now...the firearms are in another persons safe.actually make that 3....

Originally Posted by norsk

Download their code of conduct and read through it.
Its easy to find online.

I think what you’re looking for is page six of that document

“Our Reputation

We act professionally, exercise good judgement and are accountable for our behaviour. We must not do anything that may bring Police into disrepute. We consider the impact of our behaviour on Police at all times, including online or in social media, and outside of work. We protect Police’s integrity and reputation by speaking up about any inappropriate behaviour we see and hear. By addressing inappropriate behaviour either directly or through managers, we make Police a safer and healthy workplace.“

Originally Posted by KeyMod

I think what you’re looking for is page six of that document

“Our Reputation

We act professionally, exercise good judgement and are accountable for our behaviour. We must not do anything that may bring Police into disrepute. We consider the impact of our behaviour on Police at all times, including online or in social media, and outside of work. We protect Police’s integrity and reputation by speaking up about any inappropriate behaviour we see and hear. By addressing inappropriate behaviour either directly or through managers, we make Police a safer and healthy workplace.“

Thats it.

Discussing a topic and voicing your support or explaining your reasons against would not be bringing the organisation into disrepute?

End of the day its up to them.

Originally Posted by KeyMod

I think what you’re looking for is page six of that document

“Our Reputation

We act professionally, exercise good judgement and are accountable for our behaviour. We must not do anything that may bring Police into disrepute. We consider the impact of our behaviour on Police at all times, including online or in social media, and outside of work. We protect Police’s integrity and reputation by speaking up about any inappropriate behaviour we see and hear. By addressing inappropriate behaviour either directly or through managers, we make Police a safer and healthy workplace.“

I guess if somebody got fired from, resigned or retired from police that won’t apply?��

Originally Posted by norsk

Thats it.

Discussing a topic and voicing your support or explaining your reasons against would not be bringing the organisation into disrepute?

End of the day it’s up to them.

Reading that I’d say actively voicing opinions etc that run counter to those of the organisation in a public forum where people know you’re employed by police would run foul of it.

“We must not do anything that may bring Police into disrepute. We consider the impact of our behaviour on Police at all times, including online or in social media, and outside of work.”

That’s awfully broad..

Originally Posted by Finnwolf

I guess if somebody got fired from, resigned or retired from police that won’t apply?��

Can’t imagine it would, once the employment relationship has ceased it wouldn’t mean anything unless there’s something in their employment agreement that stipulates it remains in force for x amount of years post employment or something

Been down this road before with my old man. As a licence holder, you need to be able to secure a firearm for 24hrs.

Chain around the hot water cylinder worked for him.

Arms officer told him that there were too many instances of fire arms left unsecured due to the person not having access to the ‘off site’ gun safe due to late evening hunts for example..

Fair enough IMHO.

I really cant believe that anyone would use the HWC as an anchor point for a firearm, a HWC would be a hell of a lot easier to remove with a tow rope than a gun safe...and messy....no thief worth his pinch-of-shit is going to turn the power or the water off before driving off with the HWC in tow.