Thread: T3 Half- cock issue

trigger issue not a sear issue. if the sear didnt engage as the bolt was closed it would just slide down the cocking ramp and not have enough force to ignite a primer. i think the sear likely was engaged and either the trigger is too light or the trigger was touched by mistake.

personally i see no need to have a half cock. if your are that close that you need one up the spout then why not just have the bolt fully up. some will argue that the bolt could slide back and eject the round. the rife should be level anyways and you will be going slow so catching on bush shouldnt be an issue. so theres a good reason not to have one!!

FFS here we go again. I hate regurgitated threads in particular this one which has gone straight off topic from what the issue the OP originally posted.

Sorry for getting off topic. What catridge is it. I think the OP should get a blank round in that catridge and test it. If it does it again then go to the gunsmith. Otherwise maybe he bumped the trigger. The tape over the primer would show a dent because the protrusion of the pin would press it into the existing primer dent

Originally Posted by robhughes-games

Sorry for getting off topic. What catridge is it. I think the OP should get a blank round in that catridge and test it. If it does it again then go to the gunsmith. Otherwise maybe he bumped the trigger. The tape over the primer would show a dent because the protrusion of the pin would press it into the existing primer dent

Again, no....

Blank as in just a primed piece of brass. Not a blank as in a crimped case!typing isn't the best way of conveying a message. What would be your advice @Spudattack

Blank as I'm just a primer on brass. Not a blank as in a crimped case!typing isn't the best way of conveying a message

Take it back to gunsmith for rectifying/repair. If no luck, take to another gunsmith.

Originally Posted by Frosty

Take it back to gunsmith for rectifying/repair. If no luck, take to another gunsmith.

This^

At no point should the firing pin be proud unless the trigger is pulled, therefore your post is completely incorrect and serves to show there is a problem @robhughes-games

If the sear was not engaging then the pin would be proud when the bolt was closed. That's all in saying with the tape indent.

Originally Posted by robhughes-games

If the sear was not engaging then the pin would be proud when the bolt was closed. That's all in saying with the tape indent.

Exactly, he said he had the bolt held in half cock and it fired when he closed the bolt, the firing pin should be held back by the sear when doing this, obviously it was not and this is what he was testing.

As you say above, the sear was not engaged and that means he has a problem as it is meant to be engaged unless he pulls the trigger, which is what he was testing with the tape over the primer.

Thanks all - I meant half open bolt position as opposed to half cock -
If he was up here I would get him around and decap a case and seat a primer then rechamber primered case and see what happens
he been hunting around11 years now and He is a safe person - I doubt that he touched the trigger.
I will acdvise him to return with rifle to the gunsmith and sort it

cheers all - hot barrels and b careful out there

Of course the firing pin is proud when the bolt is closed and not cocked. As gundoc says, it's not a safe way to carry a rifle with a round in the chamber.

You need to understand the origins of the half cock and what it's original application was, do a little bit of digging and here are a few hints;

> It is unique to NZ?
> Enfield?
> Cock on open or close?

Applying it to a T3 or any modern rifle you have effectively used a solution for a problem that doesn't exist and what's worse in this instance created further problems (by using a "gunsmith", qualified or self-qualified?).

The only thing worse than a cock is a half cock.

So, was the rifle not used, tested, sighted in or anything of like after being at the gunsmith, before going hunting? The guys I hunt with all fire between 40-100 rounds on targets for each round at an animal. Practice makes prefect, especially after having work done on it.