Thread: They walk amoung us...

Originally Posted by timattalon

If you had even the slightest idea of the expertise this member has around firearms you would walk away now in shame....This one member probably knows more about firearms than any of us (yourself included...) I would go so far as say the number of Kiwis that know more than him in this field would be in the dozen or so if not less....



I hate to burst your bubble but acadeamic or not, there is not one member of GCNZ that I have heard make a comment that would imply that any of them have ANY relevant expertise...In fact if any of them had any relevent knowledge they would probably leave GCNZ as they would suddenly become so very aware of their lack of expertise....

well said Tim-one cant help but endorse your sentiments.as for Gundoc -a walking encyclopaedia of firearms and all its assorted issues .In fact has appeared as an expert witness on this very subject .

to assure the somewhat prickly individual whose POV I took issue with allow me to give you something to mull over

Tis an old dog walks the footpath

pups run on the street

Originally Posted by Ross Nolan

I especially like the blurb about how you can trust the content, as it is written by academics

The issue with academics is they think they are experts at everything. But would you trust a lawyer for heart surgery, or a heart surgeon for your divorce settlement.

Show me an 'academic' in NZ that is an experts on all things firearms and I'll show you a unicorn that will give you a lapdance with a happy ending.

Originally Posted by vulcannz

The issue with academics is they think they are experts at everything. But would you trust a lawyer for heart surgery, or a heart surgeon for your divorce settlement.

Show me an 'academic' in NZ that is an experts on all things firearms and I'll show you a unicorn that will give you a lapdance with a happy ending.

Can you give some examples of academics who think they are experts at everything? Most I've encountered don't seem to think they're experts in anything!

Originally Posted by Waitati Hunter

Can you give some examples of academics who think they are experts at everything? Most I've encountered don't seem to think they're experts in anything!

Gun Control NZ.

Originally Posted by vulcannz

Gun Control NZ.

It appears a number of people make up Gun Control NZ, some academics with relevant expertise, while others could be better described as activists. I don't have any reason to believe any of them claim to be, or behave as if they're experts in everything.

Chaz Forsyth possibly, but otherwise your correct and their opinions about as useful as a colour chart designed by a blind man

They certainly do walk among us.
Some of the ones I previously thought were "us" have actually turned out to be "them".

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

They certainly do walk among us.
Some of the ones I previously thought were "us" have actually turned out to be "them".

According to the link provided in point 3. of the article referenced above we should be on the lookout for 'us' vs 'them' ideology........

opinions gentlemen are like mouths armpits arseholes and feet -everyone has em and some positively stink.
Those in ivory towers may not of course be aware of this as they are too immersed in their own deductive powers ,often with selective research to back it up .
Im often lead to contemplate what happens when one of these theorems rebounds to kick em straight in the sausage and two veg. Im also getting a strong vibe this bloke loves the limelight -perhas hed like to preach his wee gospel at a deerstalkers meeting /range day /COLFO meeting and see what sort of adoration he gets .

Im profess...ing to an overwhelming desire to see your arse disappearing out of my sight .preferably at very high speed.

Originally Posted by kotuku

opinions gentlemen are like mouths armpits arseholes and feet -everyone has em and some positively stink.
Those in ivory towers may not of course be aware of this as they are too immersed in their own deductive powers ,often with selective research to back it up .
Im often lead to contemplate what happens when one of these theorems rebounds to kick em straight in the sausage and two veg. Im also getting a strong vibe this bloke loves the limelight -perhas hed like to preach his wee gospel at a deerstalkers meeting /range day /COLFO meeting and see what sort of adoration he gets .

Im profess...ing to an overwhelming desire to see your arse disappearing out of my sight .preferably at very high speed.

Maybe compulsory club membership would provide shooting and hunting clubs a much needed boost!

Originally Posted by Waitati Hunter

Maybe compulsory club membership would provide shooting and hunting clubs a much needed boost!

so says you who in a prickly fashion seems to know it all .according to research on this from across the tasman the opposite is true . furthermore as an individual in a democratic world its a given i can think for myself and make my own choices ,i don t need the state to tell me how i conduct my hobbies etc .
actually from your style of prose I suspect youre a product of a tertiary education ?????

Originally Posted by kotuku

so says you who in a prickly fashion seems to know it all .according to research on this from across the tasman the opposite is true . furthermore as an individual in a democratic world its a given i can think for myself and make my own choices ,i don t need the state to tell me how i conduct my hobbies etc .
actually from your style of prose I suspect youre a product of a tertiary education ?????

As the old saying goes, no amount of schooling can cure stupidity, and a higher education positively reinforces it.

Originally Posted by Growlybear

As the old saying goes, no amount of schooling can cure stupidity, and a higher education positively reinforces it.

yes siree given the state of the world at present and the calibre of the big players ,i think good man theres more than a modicum of truth in your observation.

As pointed out, NZ was warned by Aussie not to force club membership. Aussie did it thinking it would reduce the number of license holders to the level of club membership but what it actually did ws raise club membership to license holder levels...effectively unionising the firearms owners into a larger and more organised opposition.....

but the rest of the drivel in that article realy only serves to remind us how little these 'acedeamics' really know and as for the term acedeamic....most of their learning and fear seems to be education gained from hollywood movies reinforcd by mistruths from Cahill and co....which is a poor place to be educated...if you can even call it educated...

Lets be fair to the fellow, he is not Alpers.