Thread: TV3 & Guncity mistake

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dan

The biggest disappointment and would have actually given merit to HDPA was if she had actually been able to demonstrate/investigate that the system was/has been abused by someone with ill intent.

She has created a solution for a problem that never existed?

That's the world we live in now? People come up solutions and then go and find/create problems to validate there efforts ...

Great post !

Not corruption more like manipulation of the system to suit certain people.

He has a rather nice collection, but publicising some of his actions is hardly smart even though I very much doubt he is any sort of risk

Is that because the actions are illegal? I've attended a few good shoots in my younger days! That's when the police and army use to turn up armed but in support! Oh it's a change world, but nobody got harmed back then

the guy who took his sten into international waters ...... would that be exporting/smuggling without a permit ?

Originally Posted by stumpy

the guy who took his sten into international waters ...... would that be exporting/smuggling without a permit ?

Yep.

Originally Posted by systolic

Yep.

Not so sure about that? Exporting would be taking into another jurisdiction. Outside of our 12 mile is only our economic zone to 200nm. This is why NZ had no legal standing over the Korean officers on the JV fishing vessels working here from bumming their Indo crew and ku fuing them when they felt like it. For criminal acts they were Korean jurisdiction as Korean registered vessels.
Think he should have been Ok with the sten but recent years there have been all sorts of international laws for firearms. NZ is always first at UN with ballpoint ready to sign some shit.

Originally Posted by stumpy

the guy who took his sten into international waters ...... would that be exporting/smuggling without a permit ?

Absolutely correct. The border for import or export is the shoreline of NZ. The harbours and territorial waters of NZ are outside the parameters of the act, therefore export and import only occur when the item crosses the land boundary. Taking your C category item out to sea to shoot it is not an offence, but "exporting" it (crossing the land boundary) is (Section 38 of the Arms Act). Bringing it back ashore also contravenes sections 18 and 19 of the act (Permit required for import, and Siezure of illegally imported firearms). They would be technical offences, but certainly guaranteed to have your licence revoked and the siezure of the firearms in question. PNHQ in Wellington would love the chance to nail someone doing that! There are much safer legal solutions to finding out how your expensive collector's item works!

aint this ironic the cops cant solve burglerys including the theft of 136 guns fom one collector alone and when these guns finally appear in the hands they were stolen for everybody jumps up and down and blames every gunowner?

just a tip for you crusher get your officers you were so worried about getting shot to find the guns when they,re stolen??
step 2 give them enough training so that they can handle whats expected of them firearms wise before the aos turns up or you have call the ats.
why do i have this horrible feeling that the cop with the hand shooting injuryof the four shot was self inflicted????

Waikato University professor Alexander Gillespie said there needs to be discussion about what firepower is lawful and where guns are sourced.

"Governments tend to wait until an atrocity occurs or a massacre and then they legislate afterwards.

"It is very rare they're pre-emptive or do something in a precautionary manner, even thought, in my opinion, that it is foreseeable that unless we get in control of this problem something bad will happen"

Gillespie said a starting point would be tracking down the 100,000 guns that aren't with their original purchaser - having been passed on to a friend or family member.


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He said of the one million guns in circulation in New Zealand, around 100,000 of them aren't with their licensed owner.

"You're grandather had a gun, it went to his daughter, it ended up in the cupboard in the house and so on and so forth. You need to get these firearms off the street. You need to get them out of the houses. You need to have a public by back, where a lot of these old guns can be brought in, no questions asked".

Gillespie said around 25,000 of the "missing " guns end up with criminals.

apart from his bullshit figures bullshit cos the cops have no idea of the numbers so how could he?
theres some sence in his arguement

Originally Posted by gsp follower

aint this ironic the cops cant solve burglerys including the theft of 136 guns fom one collector alone and when these guns finally appear in the hands they were stolen for everybody jumps up and down and blames every gunowner?

just a tip for you crusher get your officers you were so worried about getting shot to find the guns when they,re stolen??
step 2 give them enough training so that they can handle whats expected of them firearms wise before the aos turns up or you have call the ats.
why do i have this horrible feeling that the cop with the hand shooting injuryof the four shot was self inflicted????



apart from his bullshit figures bullshit cos the cops have no idea of the numbers so how could he?
theres some sence in his arguement

What this person fails to realise is that there is an amnesty 24/7 for firearms in this country. They can be handed to Police or a licensed dealer at any time with no questions asked. And this is someone called a professor? Seems his research skills leave a bit to be desired.

Well, what piss me off if that our taxes are paying those scumbags more than 100000$ a year to have their shitty ass at a uni, promote their crap around and write that type of bullshit.

My Google / YouTube search skills have departed, can someone put up a link to this sten / Ted guy?

what a fuckin surprise a slap on the arse and awy scot free
guess impersonating a police officer and falsifying details aint an offence??
unless your some poor drunk hoon who gets popped on police ten 7 or on some money spinning police trap.
give me strength the cops wonder why they dont have the respect they used to

Originally Posted by Beaker

My Google / YouTube search skills have departed, can someone put up a link to this sten / Ted guy?

Link published further back in thread to this guy's Tube channel

Originally Posted by 308

Link published further back in thread to this guy's Tube channel

Missed that... Cheers