Thread: TV3 & Guncity mistake

Originally Posted by top gun

I have been following this whole drama from day one. No one has explained what the loophole/weakness in the previous mail order system was????

I f you know, please elucidate.

The loop hole was that someone could use someone else's firearms licence number,and impersonate a police constable to make a fraudulent document to obtain a firearm through online/mail order sales.
Meanwhile crims continue to steal or get their scumbag uncaught ( yet) mates to supply them with weapons.

Moral of the story is to get a well connected journalist/political party PR sugar daddy twice your age and break the law to self promote yourself.
Wonder if the #@%^ will show TVland how to make meth for her next story?

Originally Posted by Kscott

you cannot shoot your pistol outside an approved range.

If your a keen bean you can build your own range at home if you have land and get it certified.

Yes, a certified / approved range. Different word, same meaning. What you can't do is whip out your pistol on farmland, tuck it into your belt and go pig hunting.

Originally Posted by Steve123

The loop hole was that someone could use someone else's firearms licence number,and impersonate a police constable to make a fraudulent document to obtain a firearm through online/mail order sales.
Meanwhile crims continue to steal or get their scumbag uncaught ( yet) mates to supply them with weapons.

Moral of the story is to get a well connected journalist/political party PR sugar daddy twice your age and break the law to self promote yourself.
Wonder if the #@%^ will show TVland how to make meth for her next story?

Steve,
You're forgetting that the first thing GC in Auckland did was phone the AO & checked the cosherness of the licence holder's details. All OK. And, the police checked over 2000 previously received mail order forms & found NO evidence of forgeries or fraudulence.ALL spot on. i.e. NO loophole!!

The only hiccup that I have become aware of is the fact that not all arms offices in NZ actually authenticated the Police Officer's details on the bottom of the form with the Official " Arms Office" rubber stamp. There is NO way for any firearm dealer or firearm seller to know whether or not that info is genuine????
You'd have to be a bit bloody stupid to risk 7 years in the slammer to even think of forging the police info,eh????

Good old Heather & team had no problems tho' AND got away with it ( SO FAR!!!! )

Originally Posted by top gun

Steve,
You're forgetting that the first thing GC in Auckland did was phone the AO & checked the cosherness of the licence holder's details. All OK. And, the police checked over 2000 previously received mail order forms & found NO evidence of forgeries or fraudulence.ALL spot on. i.e. NO loophole!!

The only hiccup that I have become aware of is the fact that not all arms offices in NZ actually authenticated the Police Officer's details on the bottom of the form with the Official " Arms Office" rubber stamp. There is NO way for any firearm dealer or firearm seller to know whether or not that info is genuine????
You'd have to be a bit bloody stupid to risk 7 years in the slammer to even think of forging the police info,eh????

Good old Heather & team had no problems tho' AND got away with it ( SO FAR!!!! )

Exactly. The only loop hole she found was fraud. Impersonating police and using someone else's licence number.
No loophole just fraud.
incidentally sugar daddy is now doing PR for Dear Leader in the Herald.

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the guy who took his sten into international waters ...... would that be exporting/smuggling without a permit ?

You can just whip it out and do what you want it just wont be legal

Originally Posted by stumpy

the guy who took his sten into international waters ...... would that be exporting/smuggling without a permit ?

Yep.

Originally Posted by Haggie

You can just whip it out and do what you want it just wont be legal

I just whipped it out and enjoyed the sensation of a nice long leak.ok mr lawman im sorry got caught short OK!

Originally Posted by systolic

Yep.

Not so sure about that? Exporting would be taking into another jurisdiction. Outside of our 12 mile is only our economic zone to 200nm. This is why NZ had no legal standing over the Korean officers on the JV fishing vessels working here from bumming their Indo crew and ku fuing them when they felt like it. For criminal acts they were Korean jurisdiction as Korean registered vessels.
Think he should have been Ok with the sten but recent years there have been all sorts of international laws for firearms. NZ is always first at UN with ballpoint ready to sign some shit.

My Google / YouTube search skills have departed, can someone put up a link to this sten / Ted guy?

what a fuckin surprise a slap on the arse and awy scot free
guess impersonating a police officer and falsifying details aint an offence??
unless your some poor drunk hoon who gets popped on police ten 7 or on some money spinning police trap.
give me strength the cops wonder why they dont have the respect they used to

Originally Posted by Beaker

My Google / YouTube search skills have departed, can someone put up a link to this sten / Ted guy?

Link published further back in thread to this guy's Tube channel

Originally Posted by steven

He's giving his opinion here is my one, gun ownership is a minority. So whatever your opinion is just consider the 90%? of voters in our democracy's opinion who dont own a gun and of them probably a significant % who dont want you to own a gun may think come election time. Appearing to be a bunch of uncontrollable nut jobs is one sure way to see us get draconian gun laws like OZ IMHO how ever unfair that is.

We don't know what percentage of the population don't want us to own a gun and to guess or suppose is pure speculation. Certainly, in the rural sector, it's been my experience that most folk are not anti gun.

Originally Posted by 308

Link published further back in thread to this guy's Tube channel

Missed that... Cheers