Thread: TV3 & Guncity mistake

Looks like Guncity may have a problem after they supplied a .22 rifle to a TV3 staff member who did not have a FAL
Watch TV3 7pm tonight.

That would make the owners bunghole pucker a bit

I think what TV3 did was supply a fake FAL number on the online purchase form.
So I guess TV3 may have also committed fraud.

Originally Posted by BobGibson

I think what TV3 did was supply a fake FAL number on the online purchase form.
So I guess TV3 may have also committed fraud.

Listening to Duncan Garner on way home tonight he said they only supplied a Fake Name and Firearms Licence Number.

If that was all then the Gunshop might also have some answering to do?

However I was under the impression they should / would have to have also supplied a completed mail order for which should have officers name, Station QID and signature stating they have sighted their (purchaser licence)

http://www.guncity.com/?syscmd=dl&ID...958F1B32FCC026 as an example

Soooooooooo while its bad enough they got the gun if they filled in the form and forged the Police details I hope they (TV3) get book thrown at them too
I do know with arms act, Its up to FAL holder to prove their innocence rather than police their guilt.

Originally Posted by mikee

Listening to Duncan Garner on way home tonight he said they only supplied a Fake Name and Firearms Licence Number.

If that was all then the Gunshop might also have some answering to do?

However I was under the impression they should / would have to have also supplied a completed mail order for which should have officers name, Station QID and signature stating they have sighted their (purchaser licence)

http://www.guncity.com/?syscmd=dl&ID...958F1B32FCC026 as an example

Soooooooooo while its bad enough they got the gun if they filled in the form and forged the Police details I hope they (TV3) get book thrown at them too
I do know with arms act, Its up to FAL holder to prove their innocence rather than police their guilt.

My exact thoughts, I hope Gun city gets in trouble if they are at fault.
But also hope Duncan Garner gets at least a fine or a serious talking to for being a wibbling media twat. I used to like him, but he is just the same as any other Journalist who would do anything to get a story.

Except a legitimate FAL number, all other details being boogie

Originally Posted by BobGibson

I think what TV3 did was supply a fake FAL number on the online purchase form.
So I guess TV3 may have also committed fraud.

Yes but the legislation says it's an offence to supply a firearm or ammunition without the police mail order form being sighted.

Yes I thought this was what they were on about. On tv3 story show tonight.

If TV3 faked the Police use only part of the form I would expect them (TV3) to be in trouble not Guncity.
Dont know if we have got all the facts on this yet

Looks like they faked the lot

Originally Posted by Tommy

Attachment 41625

Looks like they faked the lot

So, just my little opinion.
I don't know if this "phone photo" is the real police form thing, but, if it is i spot few problems in between buyer and seller.
The buyer: if they produce it to prove anything they are straight away WRONG, as they are falsifying a official document, then committing a crime, if they have use a supposed police officer name without permit they are wrong again…
The seller: been the seller a very well stablished business the people work for them must be trained to deal with all kinds of situations they may come across, they should be able to identify a not fully completed document(in my opinion), i always have my online forms signed and stamped by the officer who do sight it.

So, in both ways they are wrong!

I believe all certified firearms, ammunition and its variants should have access to a national online firearms database, this way these retailers could double check the buyer information is correct or if the F.A.L. is actually current. For those who are selling privately it is a must to check the appropriate documentation and if not sure if it is legal or valid just call a police station/office and check the details of the person who you intend to "send/deliver" the goods.

Well, hope it make some sense to you guys.

Shame a lot of restrictions has been imposed on us "law" abide and responsible gun owners because someone want/need to prove a point(i must agree it unfortunately is/was a good point)

Cheers.

Mac

Hey Tommy is that the online form TV3 submitted to Guncity

Originally Posted by BobGibson

Hey Tommy is that the online form TV3 submitted to Guncity

Yep, it's on Whaleoil #dirtymedia Mediaworks programme Story breaks multiple laws to illegally obtain an firearm

Interesting. Will be watching this. Because TV3 won't tell us of this loop-hole as they put it, we will never know.

AFAIK, Gun City either sent without sighting the forms/accepting the forms incomplete or TV3 falsified information on the form- both FAL number and Police details.
The reason for the mail-order form is to verify, via the police, that the buyer is licensed.

If TV3 falsified the documents including the police signature, Gun City is not to know any different and the system obviously needs to be revised. Tv3 should also face a penalty. If Gun City accepted an incomplete form, then they should skate for it.

They usually have a stamp too near the police use only section at the bottom?

There has been lots of slander towards firearm owners in the media lately, looks like a useless reporter wants an easy promotion. Hope he gets promoted to prison for forging shit.