Thread: TV3 & Guncity mistake

Originally Posted by steven

It can be and is done by some on line. When I delt with Aoraki from the feedback I got I am pretty sure they had run my form past their local AO to get it/me verified as legit before they shipped me a boat load of 223, good on them.

On top of that it wouldnt be hard for a gunshop to buildup and hold a register (or get the police to supply it or have a restricted website) of known AOs / signers as a simple and quick cross check. Something as simple as Wellington AO = Mike Cole = AO666. Ditto putting in the FAL licence and getting back the owner's name on a website (but no address).

It isnt rocket science, its dead easy IT stuff that wouldnt cost much to implement like a few thousands of $s.

A few thousand dollars you reckon? What you're forgetting is the actual costs that government departments are charged for IT services.
This is something the would cost MILLIONS of dollars and would have an ongoing cost in order to keep up and would more than likely be down continuously.
Forgetting the costs of Nova pay? - regardless of the issues.

Originally Posted by Josh

I have a solution to this that I imagine is pretty unpopular - I don't see the issue as being a sales issue, but a shipping one. Shipping firearms to private addresses, specifically.

Easy solution, scrap the police order form entirely, instead of heading to the police station to fill out the form, you head to the police station to show them your license and pick up your firearm, which was shipped there by the seller... would take up a slight amount of police time but would be pretty foolproof.

Think about what you're saying, storing extra firearms at a police station that they then have to deal with, police budgets are stretched extremely thin as it is before having to deal with other people's firearms turning up and having to store them securely.

Sounds like she was very lucky that the number she made up was an actual number. The Herald article states that Guncity checked the firearms licence number and it was real.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if they used the licence number of the firearms licence holder they had on the TV program.

Originally Posted by stug

Sounds like she was very lucky that the number she made up was an actual number. The Herald article states that Guncity checked the firearms licence number and it was real.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if they used the licence number of the firearms licence holder they had on the TV program.

Well if they did use his FAL number and he gave it to them them he should be considered no longer "fit and proper" expecially since FALs now seem to be revoked for driving offences etc, etc.

I'm tired of being thrown under the bus just because my hobbies are an easy target. For god sake more kids are beaten and hospitalised every week than people shot by criminals. ( yes both are bad bad things)

The courts should make an example of Heather and co, lets start seeing stories about our current firearm laws being applied.

I haven't really kept up with this , but it seems to me the first breach of the law was falsifying the police clearance .
All other actions by other parties where thus the result of a misleading and unlawful action .


Ken

I am curious to know why Heather Du Plessiallen still has this rifle and has not had her house searched by our boys in blue yet.

Originally Posted by tararua

I am curious to know why Heather Du Plessiallen still has this rifle and has not had her house searched by our boys in blue yet.

They filmed them handing it over to the local police firearms guy this afternoon.

I am very impressed with the police response. Heather needs a big book thrown at her.

I think that O'Conner guy was in on this from the start, clearly this all being timed for his interview with that stooge Duncan Garner so he can give his opinion on how we need more legislative restrictions on firearm ownership.

I am guessing it is a formula, essentially a simple encryption. If you have enough FALs you could work it out. Credit Cards have it also but a lot more numbers. If Gun City did check it and it passed then it is either a legit number or lucky. The cipher could be as simple as for instance if your letter is "H" the first three numbers are a multiple of 8. It's possible they simply obtained a legit number from someone.

Still fraud, most smart investigators and auditors use a legal means to test a system. IE begin a transaction but don't finish it, underage alcohol and cigarette purchasers are a good example. they set up the deal but don't finish it. Out of principle you don't actually commit a crime to prove one is easy to commit. GC has also not done a good job on this but nothing like Duncan Greg and Heather.

Petition running now to have her charged. Getting shredded on the TV3 FB page.

Originally Posted by Beavis

Petition running now to have her charged. Getting shredded on the TV3 FB page.

signed (with my REAL name)

Where is the petition ?

I hope that Auckland Police and Gun City fry that bitch...Put her in Jail!!!

https://www.change.org/p/new-zealand...etition-no_msg

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

https://www.change.org/p/new-zealand...etition-no_msg

Done!