Thread: Two meters steel cable is enough?

Hi

I am buying materials for building this as picture shown, and I will need to tell the seller how long I need so that they could fix the cable end. Is that two meters is good enough for two guns? One rifle, one shotgun? Or, I should buy two cables and more parts except drill. thank you for any inputs.



I have bought 10 eye bolts cost me here less than two dollars for each, but why all the screws in NZ are so expensive?

Try one of these instead... probably cheaper, easier, and more likely to be approved by an inspecting officer.
https://outdoorshop.nz/products/gun-...oor-outfitters

Ideally buy it from an independent NZ gun store.

Originally Posted by yeah_na_missed

Try one of these instead... probably cheaper, easier, and more likely to be approved by an inspecting officer.
https://outdoorshop.nz/products/gun-...oor-outfitters

Ideally buy it from an independent NZ gun store.

Something like this is far better than the cable.

Would be more secure if you drilled through the stock with a hole saw, and just bog the hole up if you ever want to sell it.

Originally Posted by DavidGunn

Would be more secure if you drilled through the stock with a hole saw, and just bog the hole up if you ever want to sell it.

WTF. Why do that when cable with swaged end loops fed through mag well, around secure framing and padlocked is plenty secure enough. Meets regulations so why butcher a stock which in all probability will be cut down anyway if stolen. Bet you wouldn’t do that to your own gear.

Originally Posted by DavidGunn

Would be more secure if you drilled through the stock with a hole saw, and just bog the hole up if you ever want to sell it.

yes like woods 223 WTF - surely you are trying to wind someone up - if you are even remotely serious then WTF

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

yes like woods 223 WTF - surely you are trying to wind someone up - if you are even remotely serious then WTF

'Thumbhole' stock.

Originally Posted by yeah_na_missed

Try one of these instead... probably cheaper, easier, and more likely to be approved by an inspecting officer.
https://outdoorshop.nz/products/gun-...oor-outfitters

Ideally buy it from an independent NZ gun store.

Thank you. will give it a try

Originally Posted by Black Rabbit

Hi

I am buying materials for building this as picture shown, and I will need to tell the seller how long I need so that they could fix the cable end. Is that two meters is good enough for two guns? One rifle, one shotgun? Or, I should buy two cables and more parts except drill. thank you for any inputs.

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I have bought 10 eye bolts cost me here less than two dollars for each, but why all the screws in NZ are so expensive?

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Originally Posted by woods223

WTF. Why do that when cable with swaged end loops fed through mag well, around secure framing and padlocked is plenty secure enough. Meets regulations so why butcher a stock which in all probability will be cut down anyway if stolen. Bet you wouldn’t do that to your own gear.

Welcome to the NEW, New Zealand...

Originally Posted by yeah_na_missed

https://outdoorshop.nz/products/gun-...oor-outfitters
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What's the intent of those thin linky cable type padlocks these rack come with? Goes through the hole in end of mounting pin? Why don't they get supplied with a decent padlock that has minimal length U so harder to snip with bolt cutters?

The rack is fine but you will be asked to round off the bolts.
Best to go for a cheap safe you can mount horizontally as you can leave the hex heads intact

What a lot of nonsense.
Everybody here, including the OP is over-thinking what is required. His picture, which has been taken from the current NZ Police "firearms secure storage guidance shows an inordinate length of cable passing through the mag' well, around part of the wooden structure, through some eye-bolts, and tied together with a padlock of some doubtful quality.
Why not use a piece of cable, similar to that shown, and simply pass it through the mag' well and wrap it once around the timber framing. Once only. Any more than once does not increase the level of security.
Oh, sorry. I'm taking it as gospel that what NZ Police show is a good solution. Silly me.
Think about it folks. And don't over complicate a simple solution.

This, from the Guidance: (can be found here https://www.firearmssafetyauthority....transportation ) page 6

2.2.3 Securing a Single Firearm to a Building
To secure a single firearm to a building Police recommends the following:

1. The firearm is retained by a cable (4mm-6mm wire or steel rope or cable with a substantial padlock) that is wound through the action of the firearm and retained by at least two 10mm x 100mm eye bolts or screws, alternatively through a stud or rafter or joist (stud). Eye bolts serve absolutely no purpose.

2. If eye bolts are used the cable must weave through the firearm action and be locked to cover and prevent access to the eye bolts. Eye bolts are not needed if you wrap the cable around the stud, rafter, or joist.

3. If the cable passes through a stud, the hole must be drilled so there is at least 50mm of material between the edge of the stud and the edge of the hole. The stud must be at least 50mm in depth where the hole has been drilled. If a hole, big enough to pass the cable end eye through, has to be drilled through a stud, rafter, or joist, what thought has been given to the structural integrity of that material in its original and intended purpose?

4. By passing the cable through the action the firearm is effectively immobilised; however, the bolt should be stored separately.

5. The firearm should be hidden from sight and not easily detectable.

Originally Posted by gonetropo

The rack is fine but you will be asked to round off the bolts.
Best to go for a cheap safe you can mount horizontally as you can leave the hex heads intact

Yes, you right. But the thing is...I have to keep my stuffs simple for my SUV in case I have to move. Secondly, a gun safe is not good item in landlord`s eye, they do `t want to any holes.

Originally Posted by Black Rabbit

Yes, you right. But the thing is...I have to keep my stuffs simple for my SUV in case I have to move. Secondly, a gun safe is not good item in landlord`s eye, they do `t want to any holes.

they will never notice the holes if you do it in a wardrobe...