Thread: Un safety habits taught at Gun City.

Originally Posted by peril 787b

Still feels uncomfortable being handed a rifle with a closed bolt.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest, because I will:
◇Treat it as if it is loaded.
◇Not point it at anything I'm not willing to destroy.
◇Keep my finger off the trigger until I'm ready to fire.
◇Confirm the condition of the firearm upon receiving it.

I understand your concerns, but if you follow the golden rules it is a non issue. I'm going to treat it as if it IS loaded even if it ISN'T.

Funny,

You put up a post about something that happened you feel like sharing, and invite comment- some post in with related instances that have happened to them, some just to share their opinion as to right or wrong as sociable people do, weather they necessarily agree or not, but some........ jump in to post full of rage and vitriol and general antiness re the thread itself and those that post but don't agree with his point of view, people like that, might want to consider the following:

1- Platform shoes will solve the height problem,
2- Taking the pill will help adjust the "time of the month" problem,
3- Not posting in threads you hate will help your nerves,
4- Valium will help solve the rest,

If you recognise yourself here, pleased I could help!

Originally Posted by Neckshot

This is the problem with this place FFs why is this being talked about the actual problem has been and gone but its still being fucken wanked on about!!!!...............................instead of writing a big fucking wank rant on safety just take the whole problem into your own hands and end the problem there and then instead of filling this forum up with this waste of time bullshit.
He pointed an unloaded rifle at you.................pretend you thought it was loaded grab barrel pull it past your head becuase you stated it was aiming at you r mellon then as his face is close enough fucken hit the cunt right in the kisser pull said rifle out of his hands take out bolt and ask to talk to the boss.the shop dosnt have a leg to stand on as you felt threatened with a potential loaded wepon they will say sorry job done.
find other shit to winge about like.................................well I dint know because I dint winge much I have a wife shes dose it all for me.

The main reason for bringing up a subject like this is to get opinions and options on how to deal with the situation.

Myself:

1. If I was within reach I would push the barrel away to a safe direction else move to 2.
2. In a very loud, calm, clear, authoritative voice, so as many in the place can hear including other customers and staff, make it clear that I was uncomfortable having a firearm pointed at me and that both the customer and sales staff must ensure that it never happens again and that they are both responsible for the situation. Basically make them feel very uncomfortable.
3. If I felt the response to the above was inadequate proceed to ask for both their details for a formal complaint to the Police.

Admittedly I am a very quiet person but I have been in similar situations before and made plenty of noise about it. The trick is to be calm and authoritative and not resort to being abusive and antagonistic. The arms officers that vetted both TimeRider and myself said that we must take firm action if required.

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

Funny,

You put up a post about something that happened you feel like sharing, and invite comment- some post in with related instances that have happened to them, some just to share their opinion as to right or wrong as sociable people do, weather they necessarily agree or not, but some........ jump in to post full of rage and vitriol and general antiness re the thread itself and those that post but don't agree with his point of view, people like that, might want to consider the following:

1- Platform shoes will solve the height problem,
2- Taking the pill will help adjust the "time of the month" problem,
3- Not posting in threads you hate will help your nerves,
4- Valium will help solve the rest,

If you recognise yourself here, pleased I could help!

So, I would have just said “Oi, don’t point that thing at me!”, an then tottered out in my high heels.

Originally Posted by gadgetman

I am a very quiet person

I recognise the type GM. Capable of much. Dangerous to underestimate.

Originally Posted by v1025566

I would be pissed about having it pointed at me, couldn't give a shit about the bolt and mag being in.

You know how guns work?
yes im bored....

Originally Posted by distant stalker

You know how guns work?
yes im bored....

Not fully, I heard that they go off by themselves without any human intervention whatsoever and that if they have pistol grips and sliding stocks they are 3x more likely to be used in aggravated assaults against babies.
Go firearm shopping in the US and every AR in the shop has a fucking 30 rounder jammed up it's arse while it's on display, 787b would have a coronary artery spasm

So if forums aren't for discussing issues and topics of interest what are they for? Typing practice?

Quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog?

Originally Posted by Rushy

I recognise the type GM. Capable of much. Dangerous to underestimate.

There were quite a few that didn't unfortunately.

the issue imo is that in a shop there is very limited spots to point a firearm with out pointing it at someone (maybe not directly) but if a round were to go off which it wont as the shop sales person and your self should of made 100% SURE that the firearm was cleared and safe a round would go trough displays shelf's etc with still plenty of power to kill someone standing behind maybe gun shops should have an proper spot for this with a barrier so no one can walk in front and maybe even a target on the wall to take aim at and dry fire a couple of times and no pointing of firearms is to take place unless its in that spot

that's the only way I can see of pointing firearms in a safe direction in a shop

Safe zone with a target on the wall would be a good idea.

Gives people something to aim at, kinda like a fly painted on a urinal

Originally Posted by AzumitH

So if forums aren't for discussing issues and topics of interest what are they for? Typing practice?

Quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog?

Ha ha ha ha you need more practice. You missed out the word "The" at the beginning of that sentence AzumitH.

A 50 MTR range out back of every gun store with them providing half a box of amo to try out for free .

It's pretty regular to see someone pointing a shotgun at another's face at clay bird shoots, it's perfectly safe given the gun is checked and all people know what's going on.

How on earth is someone ever going to look at a rifles muzzle if every firearm must be treated as loaded???

I agree, in gunshops, no one should be pointing firearms at others but only because not everyone in the store may know what is going on or if the firearm is safe or not. No live ammunition should ever be chambered either.

I've never seen anyone point a gun at someones face at a clay shoot pretty sure you'd get told to feck off and don't come back at the clubs i shoot at the usual action open gun in a safe direction applies you don't have to stand directly in front of the barrel to check gunfit