Thread: Uncovered guns

Ok , what are people's opinions on gun owners walking into gun stores with uncovered guns, this involves walking across a car park, prior to entering the shop.

Its legal but a dumb idea

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Never had an issue seeing firearms anywhere in NZ.

Depending on how it is carried I have no problem with it.

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Had a guy walk past at a certain monthly meet with a 1919 30 cal machine gun, then another dude with a sten in each hand a minute later. If the police get called about someone walking into a gun shop with a gun, they'll also be the ones reporting lions at the zoo

Interesting so far,
berg you say it reinforces press hysteria if gun owners put there guns in bags ?, surely if a gun is in a bag then it removes any argument the press has. Just curious but when did you last walk into a store full of customers ( say upto 30 people mainly buying fishing gear and clothes ) with a gun under your arm, not looking for a argument here, just trying to work out if asking a customers to next time bring it in covered is a unusual request, we have a policy of never letting a customer leave with a uncovered gun.

So you sell a silky lopper (nastiest bit of kit for hurting people with) to your customer and request he hides it so no one sees it? Same damn thing.

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

So you sell a silky lopper (nastiest bit of kit for hurting people with) to your customer and request he hides it so no one sees it? Same damn thing.

Actually a motor car is more dangerous, but we are trying to have a sensible discussion, and yes it doe,s leave in a carrier bag

I have been carrying uncovered guns in and out of shops for years. I carry them with the action open where possible and hold them vertically by the muzzle (often a couple in each hand). It is a totally non-threatening method and obvious to all that you are merely moving them. There is no legal requirement to cover them in public but merely be carrying them for a 'lawful sufficient purpose'. If you bend over backwards to accommodate the whims of the hoplophobes they will only see that as an excuse to make more unlawful demands. Feck em!

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

So you sell a silky lopper (nastiest bit of kit for hurting people with) to your customer and request he hides it so no one sees it? Same damn thing.

I think the public are more likely to call the cops if they see an uncovered gun than than a pruning saw. So no, not really the same.

Same here @gundoc. I once took my AR into my local Engineer's shop to acquire some parts for it and they were fine. Demonstrated it was unloaded of course and proceeded with my enquiry - no big deal.

Originally Posted by berg243

can see its not loaded if carried properly not in a case or bag.all this bullshit about hiding them in bags or cases just reinforces the press's hysteria about dangerous weapons and their dodgy owners.

Fuck off.

Idiots wandering around the place even across a car park, legally or not, with uncovered guns is what reinforces hysteria in the press and public about guns.

Keeping them in a cover so as not to potentially scare people unnecessarily is a much more responsible thing to do. Not just for you but all gun owners.

So out of the replies so far, if you were asked , " next time can you please have your gun covered, when entering the store" would you be offended.

Originally Posted by systolic

I think the public are more likely to call the cops if they see an uncovered gun than than a pruning saw. So no, not really the same.

A silky lopper will take your arm ( or head) off with ease. Made no reference to a saw of any kind. Quite happy to wander into a gunshop anywhere with a rifle in my hands, open action or bolt out-would not wander around anywhere but the bush with an unsheathed lopper in my hand.

Originally Posted by Taff

So out of the replies so far, if you were asked , " next time can you please have your gun covered, when entering the store" would you be offended.

I tell the requestee they better stop selling guns then. Would be offended as fuck actually. If it was to be a "shop rule", I would never go back and would not be shy in commenting on it to anyone and every one. Every inch conceded to the politically correct, is an inch you will never get back.

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

I tell the requestee they better stop selling guns then. Would be offended as fuck actually. If it was to be a "shop rule", I would never go back and would not be shy in commenting on it to anyone and every one. Every inch conceded to the politically correct, is an inch you will never get back.

There's a popular gunsmith that requests guns be hidden or covered in a bag or something and he's in a residential area, not town.
I don't have a problem with a case, it's still obvious what you have but less likely to cause an issue. Who wants issues, and who doesn't use a case of some kind to protect in travel.