Thread: Uncovered guns

Ok , what are people's opinions on gun owners walking into gun stores with uncovered guns, this involves walking across a car park, prior to entering the shop.

Its legal but a dumb idea

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Never had an issue seeing firearms anywhere in NZ.

Depending on how it is carried I have no problem with it.

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Had a guy walk past at a certain monthly meet with a 1919 30 cal machine gun, then another dude with a sten in each hand a minute later. If the police get called about someone walking into a gun shop with a gun, they'll also be the ones reporting lions at the zoo

Interesting so far,
berg you say it reinforces press hysteria if gun owners put there guns in bags ?, surely if a gun is in a bag then it removes any argument the press has. Just curious but when did you last walk into a store full of customers ( say upto 30 people mainly buying fishing gear and clothes ) with a gun under your arm, not looking for a argument here, just trying to work out if asking a customers to next time bring it in covered is a unusual request, we have a policy of never letting a customer leave with a uncovered gun.

So you sell a silky lopper (nastiest bit of kit for hurting people with) to your customer and request he hides it so no one sees it? Same damn thing.

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

So you sell a silky lopper (nastiest bit of kit for hurting people with) to your customer and request he hides it so no one sees it? Same damn thing.

Actually a motor car is more dangerous, but we are trying to have a sensible discussion, and yes it doe,s leave in a carrier bag

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

So you sell a silky lopper (nastiest bit of kit for hurting people with) to your customer and request he hides it so no one sees it? Same damn thing.

I think the public are more likely to call the cops if they see an uncovered gun than than a pruning saw. So no, not really the same.

Originally Posted by systolic

I think the public are more likely to call the cops if they see an uncovered gun than than a pruning saw. So no, not really the same.

A silky lopper will take your arm ( or head) off with ease. Made no reference to a saw of any kind. Quite happy to wander into a gunshop anywhere with a rifle in my hands, open action or bolt out-would not wander around anywhere but the bush with an unsheathed lopper in my hand.

I have been carrying uncovered guns in and out of shops for years. I carry them with the action open where possible and hold them vertically by the muzzle (often a couple in each hand). It is a totally non-threatening method and obvious to all that you are merely moving them. There is no legal requirement to cover them in public but merely be carrying them for a 'lawful sufficient purpose'. If you bend over backwards to accommodate the whims of the hoplophobes they will only see that as an excuse to make more unlawful demands. Feck em!

Same here @gundoc. I once took my AR into my local Engineer's shop to acquire some parts for it and they were fine. Demonstrated it was unloaded of course and proceeded with my enquiry - no big deal.

I park up outside, go in and then tell the staff im about to bring in an unloaded firearm without a bag, go in and show them it has an empty chamber before handing it over......thats just way i roll

Originally Posted by Scouser

I park up outside, go in and then tell the staff im about to bring in an unloaded firearm without a bag, go in and show them it has an empty chamber before handing it over......thats just way i roll

@Scouser sorry to play devils advocate but you just broke the law by leaving your gun in vehicle unattended.....himmm....bugger guess your better off the other way

I wouldn't be upset if I was asked to bring my gun into a store in a case but I also don't see an issue if you are in a gunshops carpark and you are taking the gun a few meters into the store.
Just my 10 cents worth.

Shit back in the 80s I was in Papatoetoe, had a Martini henry 577/450 in a sock, in the boot of my car, just on the Northern end of the town ship.
My car was parked outside this guys place and I had the boot up discretely showing him this rifle. The butt was poking out a little and bugger me a cop car pulled up along side.
I was dressed in a suit, tie and all. The cop, talking through the cars window, asked me what the hell I thought I was doing and to leave the rifle in the boot and close it. He then wanted my license and checked me out on the radio.
Ended up telling me, this was Auckland, not Tauranga and in future to be careful how I displayed my firearms in public.
So paranoia was alive and well way back then!