Thread: Unlicensed person with 19 mssa ... sentenced to home D

All you can do is shake your head and think WTF is going on with sentencing these days

Looked like some AK's there. Something stinks.

Still would or should have been registered and traceable; if the cops have not mislaid the records---???
Now That could be embarrassing eh wot!

Originally Posted by gonetropo

9 months of sky, netflix, playstation etc!

my heart bleeds for him!

i say let him have 24 hour a day 7 day a week repeats of jacindas "podium of truth" at full volume for 9 months, if that dont scare the shit out of him nothing will

Surely this would qualify as cruel and unusual punishment?

Originally Posted by Fatberg

Surely this would qualify as cruel and unusual punishment?

Yep, a step too far for sure.

he use to sell heaps of shitty gun accessories on trademe and was the cousin of a dealer at a gun shop, has heaps of shitty sks, chinco 56's, cheap ar's when i had dealings with him 17, 18 years ago

Ffs this weak sentence bs makes me piss blood. These powers to be don't seem to work out that the sentences they are giving for these related crimes are not any deterrent what so ever. We were all warned we would be raked over the coals even as a FAL if we had even any part related to a mssa. This turkey has 19 in his possession and yet another wet bus ticket handed out. I don't know how justice Sally Fitzgerald sleeps at night. Smh.

Originally Posted by Magnus

Ffs this weak sentence bs makes me piss blood. These powers to be don't seem to work out that the sentences they are giving for these related crimes are not any deterrent what so ever. We were all warned we would be raked over the coals even as a FAL if we had even any part related to a mssa. This turkey has 19 in his possession and yet another wet bus ticket handed out. I don't know how justice Sally Fitzgerald sleeps at night. Smh.

mandatory minimum prison term of 5 years per firearm, soft as fuck govt is the problem this is the same people who give p dealers ( mongrel mob) 3 mill to rehab the bro's ffs

A d meanwhile they're trying to stuff all the hunting and sporting shooters ranges. This whole scenario is unfair and unjust.

Originally Posted by Woody

Still would or should have been registered and traceable; if the cops have not mislaid the records---???
Now That could be embarrassing eh wot!

I too was thinly of when they were imported - as well as the obvious Cat E register.

Originally Posted by GDMP

It was not until the early 90's that such rifles had to be registered here....between 82 and around 92 they were not required to be they could be had on a standard A license in normal military configuration.An AR-180 with the standard military furniture complete with a 20 rd mag was just a standard A cat rifle back then.

But they had an import permit to get them in the country

Gee wiz, if that's the punishment, I would of kept all my AR's. <<< **SARCASM, for all the woke-sters & spooks**

Originally Posted by Carbine

.. the same people who give p dealers ( mongrel mob) 3 mill to rehab the bro's ffs

This was largely converted to Harleys apparently.

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

Gee wiz, if that's the punishment, I would of kept all my AR's. <<< **SARCASM, for all the woke-sters & spooks**

David Tipple in his Select committee presentation told the committee members that in the last 20 years he would have imported several hundred thousand of them. He presented that information in an attempt to show Govt just how much the confiscation was going to cost them.

The Police 'SHOULD' know that is correct. After all they are the ones that isssue all 'Permits to procure'for all firearms legally imported to NZ. And have done so since the early 1930's.

So the Police could have publically stated just how many Permits to procure they had issued for MSSA's since...whenever. But they didn't 'cause they knew that if only a fraction of MSSA's were handed in it would highlight just what a failure the whole fiasco had become.

And the confiscation netted what?, 57 thousand of all types of firearms. An awful lot of them 22's and old shotties/303's and worn out bolt actions.

There must be an awful lot of of New Zealanders that do not trust the Government (any flavor of Govt) and the Police one iota.

.....Just like the gangs

Originally Posted by XR500

David Tipple in his Select committee presentation told the committee members that in the last 20 years he would have imported several hundred thousand of them. He presented that information in an attempt to show Govt just how much the confiscation was going to cost them.

The Police 'SHOULD' know that is correct. After all they are the ones that isssue all 'Permits to procure'for all firearms legally imported to NZ. And have done so since the early 1930's.

So the Police could have publically stated just how many Permits to procure they had issued for MSSA's since...whenever. But they didn't 'cause they knew that if only a fraction of MSSA's were handed in it would highlight just what a failure the whole fiasco had become.

And the confiscation netted what?, 57 thousand of all types of firearms. An awful lot of them 22's and old shotties/303's and worn out bolt actions.

There must be an awful lot of of New Zealanders that do not trust the Government (any flavor of Govt) and the Police one iota.

.....Just like the gangs

Yeah, based on the gun city figures which only includes imports from that business (so the actual number is much higher), less than 20% compliance