Thread: Useing the firearms register

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I had to use the registry recently. Was holding off for as long as I could. But the inevitable happened and and I had to.
Online was relatively simple. They just haven't made it very streamlined for listing a number then submitting all at once. Instead you have to answer all their bloody legal disclaimers etc everytime you enter 1.
And of course the wildcat cals aren't recognized so you have to ring them anyway.
1st fella I got really couldn't be bothered and was a right cock to say the least. I ended up hanging up on him.
Next time I rung the guy was very helpful but it did take a while as their database didn't have what I have.
And also as a side note, any transfers of ownership can only be done if you ring them.
And the seller has to initiate the transfer, not the purchaser.
After talking with the fella for a bit it was very obvious, he even said it, they really have no idea what they're doing as its all so new and is going to be a clusterf**k

Thanks for the update. I think...

Greetings,
I see that the discussion document is out for Rifle Ranges. It seems to be a long way from the open slather that operated prior to 2020.
GPM.

If it is focused on public and firearms user safety, easing the operational burden on the volunteers that run the clubs and range committees and allows range officers greater protection to do their work in keeping the ranges operating and improving the general skill base across the firearms user groups what's not to like?

Originally Posted by No.3

If it is focused on public and firearms user safety, easing the operational burden on the volunteers that run the clubs and range committees and allows range officers greater protection to do their work in keeping the ranges operating and improving the general skill base across the firearms user groups what's not to like?

Greetings,
I agree. It is about what I expected. The responsibility for Range Safety will rest with the committees and office holders. The National organisations setting the Range Standing Orders is what happens now on NRA ranges.
GPM.

Now that I've had more interaction with the registry I have a bit more experience of where it goes wrong. Basically anything to do with transferring ownership is a shit show.

Some people are not registering their firearms accurately. The issue is that you often can't find the firearm you're searching for, so I guess people tend to pick whatever the closest match is and run with that. Ringing them up to enter something manually is a massive pain in the ass that puts people off, but even when you do that they frequently get the details wrong too. This is based on my own experience and mates I've spoken to.

I've had one occasion where I've purchased a rifle that was incorrectly registered in their database, so have rung up to ask them to amend it. After all I am liable for hundreds of thousands in fines plus prison time if I knowingly enter incorrect information into the registry. In doing so they created duplicate entries and left them attached to my name. So now when I ring up to deal with them, they always tell me that I own more firearms than I actually do (despite my ringing up multiple times to try correct their records). They outright refuse to remove any duplicates from my profile because this is a feature that is apparently part of their audit trail.

Now for the rest of my life, any interaction I have with police / FSA is going to require my explaining the whole story over and over. All because their fucking shithouse system was launched before it was fit for purpose. I only have a small collection but I shudder to think at what large collectors will have to go through with FSA.

I will celebrate largely when this system is eventually removed.

@Fatburg
When you call them to request details get fixed and/or deletion of a duplication, Record the whole conversation, I'm not sure about the legality of this but I loaded an app after a car crash and recorded the abusive calls etc. It was a help assigning fault etc and peace of mind for myself in case the lumpy stuff hit the fan later.

Originally Posted by Fatberg

Now that I've had more interaction with the registry I have a bit more experience of where it goes wrong. Basically anything to do with transferring ownership is a shit show.

Some people are not registering their firearms accurately. The issue is that you often can't find the firearm you're searching for, so I guess people tend to pick whatever the closest match is and run with that. Ringing them up to enter something manually is a massive pain in the ass that puts people off, but even when you do that they frequently get the details wrong too. This is based on my own experience and mates I've spoken to.

I've had one occasion where I've purchased a rifle that was incorrectly registered in their database, so have rung up to ask them to amend it. After all I am liable for hundreds of thousands in fines plus prison time if I knowingly enter incorrect information into the registry. In doing so they created duplicate entries and left them attached to my name. So now when I ring up to deal with them, they always tell me that I own more firearms than I actually do (despite my ringing up multiple times to try correct their records). They outright refuse to remove any duplicates from my profile because this is a feature that is apparently part of their audit trail.

Now for the rest of my life, any interaction I have with police / FSA is going to require my explaining the whole story over and over. All because their fucking shithouse system was launched before it was fit for purpose. I only have a small collection but I shudder to think at what large collectors will have to go through with FSA.

I will celebrate largely when this system is eventually removed.

We've been eharing these stories for years from B, C and E cat guys, firearms ownership transfers causing all kinds of headaches. From what you're saying it seems this will be the universal experience for everyone who buys and sells firearms. Something to look forward to! Best solution might be to buy more guns and just get more gunsafes rather than sell any

Originally Posted by Ben Waimata

Best solution might be to buy more guns and just get more gunsafes rather than sell any

That pretty much defines my history with firearms

Originally Posted by Ben Waimata

Best solution might be to buy more guns and just get more gunsafes rather than sell any

Probably the way to go until they introduce a limit on how many firearms and associated ammo you can own. It's not if, it's when.

Originally Posted by Fatberg

Probably the way to go until they introduce a limit on how many firearms and associated ammo you can own. It's not if, it's when.

Possibly you’re correct but I can’t ‘like’ your post.

Originally Posted by Fatberg

Now that I've had more interaction with the registry I have a bit more experience of where it goes wrong. Basically anything to do with transferring ownership is a shit show.

Some people are not registering their firearms accurately. The issue is that you often can't find the firearm you're searching for, so I guess people tend to pick whatever the closest match is and run with that. Ringing them up to enter something manually is a massive pain in the ass that puts people off, but even when you do that they frequently get the details wrong too. This is based on my own experience and mates I've spoken to.

I've had one occasion where I've purchased a rifle that was incorrectly registered in their database, so have rung up to ask them to amend it. After all I am liable for hundreds of thousands in fines plus prison time if I knowingly enter incorrect information into the registry. In doing so they created duplicate entries and left them attached to my name. So now when I ring up to deal with them, they always tell me that I own more firearms than I actually do (despite my ringing up multiple times to try correct their records). They outright refuse to remove any duplicates from my profile because this is a feature that is apparently part of their audit trail.

Now for the rest of my life, any interaction I have with police / FSA is going to require my explaining the whole story over and over. All because their fucking shithouse system was launched before it was fit for purpose. I only have a small collection but I shudder to think at what large collectors will have to go through with FSA.

I will celebrate largely when this system is eventually removed.

Data corruption on deployment. It will be useless very quickly.

I printed of copies of all my rifles recorded on the register and filed them.

Having recently sold a rifle I photographed the registered details of that rifle minus any personal info and emailed it to the new owner so they can register it exactly how I did.

Just had a look and its still registered to me so I'm guessing the new owner hasn't done their part yet. Unfortunately the FSA do not record that you have rung up to to tell them you have sold a rifle.

Purchased a 308 recently which activated the registration , I did it over the phone and it was pretty painless. Just hope the records are safe and stay that way.