Thread: Useing the firearms register

The FSA protocol for renumbering can be sumarised to two of your initials so 2 alphas, then the year so 2 digits, then 4 or so digits from your FAL, then if you have more than 1 to do, dash 1 etc.

wonder can you use mm hh bp ha etc for lettering

I have a couple of barrels that need serial numbers for import into South Africa for the world champs.

I am going with B-YY-1 & B-TTT-YY-2 where B is a single letter for the Brand TTT is the twist rate (11.5 = 115) YY is the year of chambering then the barrel number.

I've borrowed a hand engraving tool for the purpose.

so - if you number an un-numbered firearm before you enter it into the register , the FSA has jurisdiction over what that number shall be ?

Cant see how an already numbered firearm can suddenly be subject to their numbering ideas.....

Not sure I'm keen to start randomly smacking heat treated steel items of pretty exacting tolerances with bits of metal and hammers - after all I'm not qualified and it's a certified gunsmith job for safety reasons I would have thought - their requirement and their cost obviously.

It's a shame I don't still have access to a CNC mill, I could of foreseen a lot of homers getting done at night.

There are a bunch of Lazer engravers out there.
Work matrix has one as us doing stainless steel ones for work.
I'd imagine they could do it easy peasy if set up for it.
Cost would be the big thing

Pretty cheap to by a set of number and letter punches, then you have them for keeps and looks like an original manufacturers serial number

Originally Posted by Fssprecision

Pretty cheap to by a set of number and letter punches, then you have them for keeps and looks like an original manufacturers serial number

Yep, but going back to my post a few up - should we really be randomly smacking bits of precision heat treated steel with bits of metal and hammers seeing as that's really a professional job? Their cost obviously so we know the job's done right.

The wording is obligatory not compulsary. I think some clarification is needed there as well. Im not suggesting not doing it but it all hinges on a word

Are there guidelines for selling and buying now as well. I thought you only had to sight a fal in a private sale.

Originally Posted by blip

Are there guidelines for selling and buying now as well. I thought you only had to sight a fal in a private sale.

I believe that in later versions of the registration software you will be able to do this online but this has yet to be released and no timeline yet given for it.

All I know is both parties need to call the 0800 number. Pay to make the call and check it out before a trade is made just in case you need to record the others persons details

I tend to agree with ranger 888s assessment the register is a point in time after an activating event that records the firearms in an individual's possession not where they came from. This covers those stored for friends, guns owned by clubs as well as those owned by the individual.
As far as I can see they haven't specifically prohibited the person to person sale or exchange after sighting fals, as they can't enforce or monitor that. They probably think (if they do at all ) that they will be an insignificant number that many will be caught up in the mail order process, and as more people register that will rapidly curtail the person to person sales or exchanges after all they've given the register 5 years which will probably shorten up when ammunition purchases becomes a trigger event in 25. It's a long game that they're trying to play here

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

I tend to agree with ranger 888s assessment the register is a point in time after an activating event that records the firearms in an individual's possession not where they came from. This covers those stored for friends, guns owned by clubs as well as those owned by the individual.
As far as I can see they haven't specifically prohibited the person to person sale or exchange after sighting fals, as they can't enforce or monitor that. They probably think (if they do at all ) that they will be an insignificant number that many will be caught up in the mail order process, and as more people register that will rapidly curtail the person to person sales or exchanges after all they've given the register 5 years which will probably shorten up when ammunition purchases becomes a trigger event in 25. It's a long game that they're trying to play here

Remember, it wasn't that long ago that a couple of dealers proposed in the submissions that all person to person sales had to go via a dealer. Is this going to come back to haunt us? Look at Oz for example.

With the person to person sales there is the requirement that the two parties then go off and get stuck into the register ha ha.
Interestingly, and I don't think it has changed, but the seller must view the buyers licence, but I don't think it goes the other way ie seller doesn't have to present his licence to the buyer. Correct me if I'm wrong. I always have done though.