Thread: Useing the firearms register

Originally Posted by Finnwolf

I can only hope you’re wrong!

I'm sure that this register is unique in history, and won't be used to enable confiscation.

Originally Posted by -BW-

I don’t know why people are having issues with specific calibres being entered into the system. The people I spoke to one the phone have insisted to me that they entered everything I said verbatim, including a wildcat calibre I named after myself. The lady entering the information said they change the details to anything that’s desired.

I called to register a Tikka T3 that has been rechambered in .22-204, the guy took down the details and entered it into the register. After checking the details online I know see it is registered as a "Tikka T3 .22mm"

Also had him enter a Kriss DMK .22LR which wasn't listed online...It's now registered as a "Defiance DMK .22LR" even though Kriss is available as a manufacturer in the online system but DMK is not, as a model.

So what happens if the cops come and do a check and there's no tikka t3 .22mm that's registered to you ???

It's Finnish and 20 mm, maybe they think you have one of these

Originally Posted by blip

So what happens if the cops come and do a check and there's no tikka t3 .22mm that's registered to you ???

It's irrelevant when the rifles all have a serial number with them on the registration the finer points are sorted that way

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I fear the guys inspecting your firearms may not see it that way at the time , and you will have to pay to prove they were wrong .....

Has the potential to go either way doesnt it...

Originally Posted by BRADS

It's irrelevant when the rifles all have a serial number with them on the registration the finer points are sorted that way

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If that is the case why bother entering any other details apart from the serial number, and what happens when you have two different rifles with the same serial number.
Watch the Hornady video, you will see they have all the different Ruger rifles and handguns and all the serial numbers are the same.

Originally Posted by BRADS

It's irrelevant when the rifles all have a serial number with them on the registration the finer points are sorted that way

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So what you are saying is don't bother giving them the caliber, all they need is make, model, action type, mag capacity and serial number?

Originally Posted by 19Badger

If that is the case why bother entering any other details apart from the serial number, and what happens when you have two different rifles with the same serial number.
Watch the Hornady video, you will see they have all the different Ruger rifles and handguns and all the serial numbers are the same.

Yep, a while back I had a Lee Enfield rifle with the same serial number and year of manufacture as another bare action I had on hand. That action had been butchered, since destroyed but as the UK armouries reused their serial numbers as a 4-number and 1-letter code they went through them about 4 or 5 times over the course of each year in the peak of wartime production.

Originally Posted by BRADS

It's irrelevant when the rifles all have a serial number with them on the registration the finer points are sorted that way

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No it's not. Ask any pistol shooter.

Originally Posted by No.3

So what you are saying is don't bother giving them the caliber, all they need is make, model, action type, mag capacity and serial number?

No, I'm just saying that with all the weird and wonderful wildcats we have trying to explain to a fellow shooter what we have is hard enough, let alone someone on a phone.
The serial number is your way of demonstrating that you've done your part.

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Originally Posted by BRADS

No, I'm just saying that with all the weird and wonderful wildcats we have trying to explain to a fellow shooter what we have is hard enough, let alone someone on a phone.
The serial number is your way of demonstrating that you've done your part.

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So in the case of two rifles that by chance happen to have the same serial number, ho do you propose to distinguish between them? Make model serial and caliber are the accepted identification types we regularly use, everything else is an 'accessory' basically. If the registry can't get that info right, it's a fail before it begins. Even in the case of switch barrel rifles, there's a massive problem in that what happens if the barrel the thing is wearing at inspection isn't the one it wore when it was registered?

Originally Posted by No.3

So in the case of two rifles that by chance happen to have the same serial number, ho do you propose to distinguish between them? Make model serial and caliber are the accepted identification types we regularly use, everything else is an 'accessory' basically. If the registry can't get that info right, it's a fail before it begins. Even in the case of switch barrel rifles, there's a massive problem in that what happens if the barrel the thing is wearing at inspection isn't the one it wore when it was registered?

Have a look at the website what your suggesting above is covered there.

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The chance of this thing ever being perfect is zilch. So focussing and hand wringing on the most unlikely things that could happen is totally futile.

To be useful this thread should be focussed on helping applicants through the most likely things that could happen rather than diverting people up a drain pipe.

My experience is that with some patience and tolerance its not difficult to comply.