Thread: Useing the firearms register

Just been talking to a customer thats just done the registration thing. Hes lost when it comes to using a computer so after a couple of days trying ended up doing it over the phone. The biggest joke he said was getting a real me account. He just rang up and they gave him one no checks whatsoever to even see if it was really him....

I rang because I find the whole Real me thing a major PIA.

They wanted to know my address, full name etc and obviously my firearms license number but easy as.

Originally Posted by 7mm tragic

I rang because I find the whole Real me thing a major PIA.

They wanted to know my address, full name etc and obviously my firearms license number but easy as.

Fuck yes real me a complete mind fuck, I gave up.
You don't need a real me to register your guns over the phone though.

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Originally Posted by BRADS

Fuck yes real me a complete mind fuck, I gave up.
You don't need a real me to register your guns over the phone though.

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Exactly, that's why I rang them. ( I should have expressed myself more clearly)

Due to an activating event this morning and as I was only sitting in the sun prepping brass for said activator I bit the bullet and phoned the FSA (pun intended) half an hour to do 18.five minutes of that was on hold for the next available.and four statements to agree to.All pretty painless.

Cam Slater could tell me that the sky is blue and I'd walk outside to check

Originally Posted by 308

Cam Slater could tell me that the sky is blue and I'd walk outside to check

Great call
Im still waiting on the prize from the cat comp he ran. 6years on !!!

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Originally Posted by 308

Cam Slater could tell me that the sky is blue and I'd walk outside to check

Yeh. I am certainly no fan of the man and when I read the article behind the link I was somewhat incredulous that he couldn’t understand that firearms records are in a transitional period and that the NIA and the new registry will at least need to coexist until the five year mark from the beginning of the registry. Using B endorsement pistols as an example, the NIA will have records of all of the permits issued for all of the pistols held by B endorsed license holders (and the individual pistol’s back history of owners as well) whereas the registry which Police have indicated currently has records of twenty percent of firearms is not likely to have anywhere near the the records that are in the NIA. Why would they bin the NIA while it has (using my example) the most accurate records for B endorsement pistols and who has them.

It is also easy to spot Cam’s deliberate pigheaded ignorance in the multiple misuse of TPP for Te Tari Pureke which would quite obviously be shortened to TTP.

Originally Posted by 308

Cam Slater could tell me that the sky is blue and I'd walk outside to check

There is a bit of truth in that too... Took me a while to work out who this TPP he's on about is - while I realise Te Reo can be confusing to some and the joke of the name is the literal translation appears to be the "office of knobs" the acronym he used doesn't make a lot of sense. Edit - I see Woody noted that as well.

@jusepy81 Wrote, "Went to register my guns , found my cell phone number is already in use apparently...... ?" I had exactly the same problem. Reason: At some stage in my life I had created (or partly created) a RealMe identity, using my current cell phone number. Something to do with GETS or a job application, I forget... Solution: Phone RealMe (don't try to use the internet WOFT!) explain the situation. They can see your previous identity and will simply DELETE it while you are speaking with them. Over the phone RealMe staff are fantastic to deal with and very helpful (don't try to use the internet WOFT!)

Also @Jusepy you wrote, "Do I have to ring them about my 308 Weatherby Vanguard." Legally, maybe not, but if your rifle is stolen or lost, and you want to get it back, I suggest you give them as much information as possible, so yes phone them and update model details.

Just on that I think their system does not collect enough information like, Blued or Stainless? Fluted or not? Iron sights? Picatinny rail? Threaded? Muzzle brake? Stock; style, wood or synthetic, if synthetic, colour? Make, model, serial number of suppressor, optics (daylight, thermal, night vision?) and the list goes on... I gave them all of this information, so if they find my scope, they can trace it back to my rifle, then back to me and (Hopefully) return it. (I might be dreaming there....)

"Victory loves preparation!" So before I phoned FA to register my rifles, I made a spreadsheet with all the relevant information which they require and all the relevant information which I wanted recorded. The person who I was speaking with said, "You are answering all of my questions before I ask them and you are doing them in the same order as my form? How is it you are doing that?" I went on line and copied their format before I phoned! So, you quote Lord Baden-Powell, "BE PREPARED!" And don't make it a drama for yourself.
@wekaman you wrote, "the registry being wrong until it eventually becomes an issue." You are correct, so however you register your firearms and accessories, go back into the system in 24 - 48 hours and read through the recorded details. If any detail is incorrect, and if there is not an EDIT function, phone them and they will correct it whilst talking with you. Easy!

Last note: I don't do any of my firearms compliance on line! I phone and speak with a real human being. Without exception if have found both RealMe and Firearms Registration team very, very helpful and pleasant to deal with. If you personally have a beef with the Police and/or Politicians, please don't take it out on the font line office staff, they are there to help YOU!

@Hugh Shields post clarified the whole sorry situation for me.
Positive intelligent, orderly, well organised and respectfully helpful.
I know who I’d rather spend a day on the hill with.
Cheers MG

So who's had to supply photographic information with their registration of obscure or maker unknown firearms ?

I've just had to provide images for a number of items in my registration that clearly do not exist in the FSA data base.

Full length image
Action image
All visible markings and numbers images

Originally Posted by akaroa1

So who's had to supply photographic information with their registration of obscure or maker unknown firearms ?

I've just had to provide images for a number of items in my registration that clearly do not exist in the FSA data base.

Full length image
Action image
All visible markings and numbers images

Yep, because they flatly refused to believe the serial number.
Sometimes, people who collect things manage to accrue VERY unique items. I guess this was one of those occasions.

had my daughter make up a spread sheet of my collection with all details .wonder what would happen if i email it to em saying here ya go enter it as you are employed to do??

Originally Posted by kotuku

had my daughter make up a spread sheet of my collection with all details .wonder what would happen if i email it to em saying here ya go enter it as you are employed to do??

They will simply tell you no!