Thread: Useing the firearms register

Originally Posted by striker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHkPuwWxiEI

certainly interesting from the 3min 45 mark onwards
now they are concerned about data security

Would seem to be a different facet of that argument though, that seemed to be more down the track of how much is it going to cost to staff the department who's going to have to handle the requests for data from cameras under the oia rather than data 'security' as firearms owners forced into having their data recorded are thinking of it. To be fair, that is the argument that all the left wing liberal types are not wanting to see or downplaying against their perceived benefits of other aspects of registration but that people on the receiving end of the registration are seeing as a show stopper due to the inevitable breaches.

Appears that there are holes you can drive a bus through with this new register: FSA run the new system yet Police attempting to still run the old NIA register...and the two don't line up!!!


https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com...fail.html#more

What a scary read, most of us saw something like this as a likely eventually though.

Damn, that is exactly what several people have said as being the most likely thing to happen with the way the new system was rolled out. There's actually more than two repositories of the info that makes up the registration systems in NZ, which is worse than what Cam Slater makes out. There are the Dealer's records, the Customs and import/export records, and whatever system the 17 new P endorsements are caught up in as well. Messy duplication which basically seems like ineffective political points scoring rather than a well thought out secure and efficient system. To do it properly would take a hell of a lot longer and cost a hell of a lot more than what's been thrown at it now though.

Buying at ruahine was the trigger for me, but what suprised me was that walking back to the car I got an email from the registry telling me I had had a triggering event. I'd paid for the goods literally 5 minutes before. They have spy's everywhere 😂

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Buying at ruahine was the trigger for me, but what suprised me was that walking back to the car I got an email from the registry telling me I had had a triggering event. I'd paid for the goods literally 5 minutes before. They have spy's everywhere ��

You made it to the carpark! I was still sitting in the back row bidding and I got an email! Had not even paid(so technically did not yet own it)
Very efficient at that point anyhow.

Well,I registered everything today.
Had to ring them to do it,they did not have half the stuff listed. Good news is anyone registering a two band seargents model snider should now find one in the system!

Well here's some advice for when any of you get an email from them about guns they just don't know about and can't find a label for.

I had a number of my rifles queried recently.
FSA wanted full length images, action images and serial number images.

I supplied everything they required.

They came back ( after a quick google image search I think ) suggesting what Make, Model and caliber they wanted them to be registered as.
Makes, models and calibers they suggested they would prefer were all different from the correct ones I had supplied.

When they phoned to follow up why I hadn't responded to their email I told them I frankly didn't know what to say because they were suggesting that I have incorrect information on my registration.
I asked him to look down all the items in my registration and tell me how many Makes and Models he recognised immediately ?
His response amounted to 4% of my total registered items.
So my next question to him was " do you think it is an accident that I have so many guns you don't recognise ? Or do you think I might be a collector of less common guns ?"
Ultimately he accepted that I clearly knew the Make, Model and Caliber of those rifles because I owned them and had brought them primarily because they were not your average rifle !

It was a very irritating exercise in futility.
Photographs, emails, phone calls and what has ended up on my registration is exactly what I had originally entered.

Sounds like just another day in futile discussions with our local district council!!!

Originally Posted by XR500

Sounds like just another day in futile discussions with our local district council!!!

Try telling an "Engineer" from Aecom that the photo you are both looking at showing 20mm bolts are 20mm bolts and not 12mm bolts

I find it quite impressive how many levels down I have to regress towards explaining it like the other person is a 5 year old, and I'm not that bright to start with

Surprised to find that change of firearm registration between registered owners must be completed by phone, thought a online system would be more appropriate.

Originally Posted by tetawa

Surprised to find that change of firearm registration between registered owners must be completed by phone, thought a online system would be more appropriate.

Yes. And the purchaser cant start the process of the transfer. The seller has to.
Why??? Even the FSA didn't know.
They told me its all so new and they really have no idea what they're doing.... says a lot really.

Originally Posted by cambo

Yes. And the purchaser cant start the process of the transfer. The seller has to.
Why??? Even the FSA didn't know.
They told me its all so new and they really have no idea what they're doing.... says a lot really.

I registered a firearm ex dealer last week, he hadn't done his bit even though trans-action happened previous week. I had to do it over the phone due to caliber not being on the Registry list even though it showed on the manufacturers. The operator placed it on my registration list without knowing where it was purchased. Can see a system that is due to have great holes to fill.

Originally Posted by tetawa

The operator placed it on my registration list without knowing where it was purchased. Can see a system that is due to have great holes to fill.

If the firearm is net new to the register they don't care where it came from. Their focus is on increasing total registrations to pump their numbers up so they can write press releases congratulating themselves.

https://youtube.com/shorts/M1EMDyScq...lK7fapFBMvJr4B