Thread: Useing the firearms register

We are possibly going on the road for 4 months and as I'm on the register already I will be phoning them to find out how I go about changing the storage location from house to caravan, both have approved storage so will be interesting to hear what they have to say.

Can't do it yet as nothing is confirmed.

Due to a purchase I had an activating event so had to register everything

As others have said, the user interface is about as intuitive as a wombat's arsehole and I had to ring up for several items they had never heard of before but relatively easy in the end

I still don't trust them as far as I can spit but I obey the law

Originally Posted by 308

I still don't trust them as far as I can spit but I obey the law

my sentiments exactly..... in fact i would say the level of trust i have has plummeted to an all time low and i expect the bar will still be lowered

I too had a triggering event due to a recent purchase. Did it online all went well, I believe it was easier as I already had a Realme account.

Originally Posted by trooper90

I too had a triggering event due to a recent purchase. Did it online all went well, I believe it was easier as I already had a Realme account.

Assuming it was a firearm, did you have to ring up? It states online that both parties must ring up within 30 days.

Originally Posted by Happy Jack

We are possibly going on the road for 4 months and as I'm on the register already I will be phoning them to find out how I go about changing the storage location from house to caravan, both have approved storage so will be interesting to hear what they have to say.

Can't do it yet as nothing is confirmed.

@Happy Jack that's an interesting one....Two scenarios spring to mind;

FIRST: You only own the bare essentials, 22, 30 cal and a shotgun, and you are taking all three. Seems
Simple....

SECOND: Perhaps you own ten firearms, but are only taking one away with you. Can you legally leave the other nine at home? Admittedly locked up but still in an unattended house. An you do that or do you need to make alternative arrangements.

I just thought of a third scenario; perhaps you AirBnB your house for the four months you are away. Your guest doesn't have a Firearms Licence, but is effectively I possession of your guns. Is that legal.

It will be interesting to see what they say......watching with interest....

Originally Posted by Hugh Shields

@Happy Jack that's an interesting one....Two scenarios spring to mind;

FIRST: You only own the bare essentials, 22, 30 cal and a shotgun, and you are taking all three. Seems
Simple....

SECOND: Perhaps you own ten firearms, but are only taking one away with you. Can you legally leave the other nine at home? Admittedly locked up but still in an unattended house. An you do that or do you need to make alternative arrangements.

I just thought of a third scenario; perhaps you AirBnB your house for the four months you are away. Your guest doesn't have a Firearms Licence, but is effectively I possession of your guns. Is that legal.

It will be interesting to see what they say......watching with interest....

I will take 2 as usual but will probably farm the others out to my nephew. Yes it does raise quite a few questions.

Just a question, it may have answered already.
If you have a firearm, that has the retailers name on it, say Army and Navy, who didn’t manufacture firearms. What do you do on the register for the maker? Tisdalls is a good NZ example. They were not makers either

Originally Posted by Nick.m

Assuming it was a firearm, did you have to ring up? It states online that both parties must ring up within 30 days.

Yes called them up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHkPuwWxiEI

certainly interesting from the 3min 45 mark onwards
now they are concerned about data security

Originally Posted by striker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHkPuwWxiEI

certainly interesting from the 3min 45 mark onwards
now they are concerned about data security

Would seem to be a different facet of that argument though, that seemed to be more down the track of how much is it going to cost to staff the department who's going to have to handle the requests for data from cameras under the oia rather than data 'security' as firearms owners forced into having their data recorded are thinking of it. To be fair, that is the argument that all the left wing liberal types are not wanting to see or downplaying against their perceived benefits of other aspects of registration but that people on the receiving end of the registration are seeing as a show stopper due to the inevitable breaches.

Appears that there are holes you can drive a bus through with this new register: FSA run the new system yet Police attempting to still run the old NIA register...and the two don't line up!!!


https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com...fail.html#more

What a scary read, most of us saw something like this as a likely eventually though.

Damn, that is exactly what several people have said as being the most likely thing to happen with the way the new system was rolled out. There's actually more than two repositories of the info that makes up the registration systems in NZ, which is worse than what Cam Slater makes out. There are the Dealer's records, the Customs and import/export records, and whatever system the 17 new P endorsements are caught up in as well. Messy duplication which basically seems like ineffective political points scoring rather than a well thought out secure and efficient system. To do it properly would take a hell of a lot longer and cost a hell of a lot more than what's been thrown at it now though.

Cam Slater could tell me that the sky is blue and I'd walk outside to check