Thread: very sad news for ANZAC Day - Invercargill shooting

Very sad for all involved.
Wonder how the police, press and the anti-gun lobby are going to spin this one ?
Invercargill shooting: Police officer suspected of shooting partner and another man - National - NZ Herald News

Over heard about this last night and wondered how it was going to be spun with the roar and duckshooting, plus the recommendations coming out...

Tragic, but expect it to be spun that he was a LFAO (if he was at all) who just happened to be a cop.

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Tragic in the extreme.

Bloody hell, so many lives ruined.

Hope it wasn't a police firearm,

duh

Originally Posted by Maca49

Hope it wasn't a police firearm,

They are saying it wasn't.

Originally Posted by hamsav

Im pretty sure all cops have to have a FAL.
A licenced fire arms owner goes to his police approved gun cabinet , removes a fire arm into the care of himself ( all perfectly normal so far , and legal ) ...........but then he goes and shoots 2 people. I don't see how any more or tougher laws could stop this . Right up to the point where he aimed the gun at the 1st victim he was a law biding police man ( not a citizen ) , actually I spose the law got broken when he formed the intent. Here everything the anti's scream for was in place but it still happened........... a policeman FFS. Maybe the police are not necessarily the best people in NZ to administer/regulate fire arms ownership

Cops don't have to have licences for work. Just like soldiers don't.

Perhaps the answer is more regular firearms relicensing? Maybe once every three years with a note from your doctor saying you're not mental.

A lot can happen in ten years between getting a new licence. Could happen in three years too, but should help catch a few mentals with gun licences.

Originally Posted by systolic

Cops don't have to have licences for work. Just like soldiers don't.

Perhaps the answer is more regular firearms relicensing? Maybe once every three years with a note from your doctor saying you're not mental.

A lot can happen in ten years between getting a new licence. Could happen in three years too, but should help catch a few mentals with gun licences.

gawd a doctor sees you for 15/60 and can form an opinion youre not unstable.
what i dont like about you is youre phraseology -mental went out with lunatic ,asylum etc etc and other derogatory terms-I know im pissing into a norwest wing here and no doubt ill cop a mouthful. Im a psych nurse of 45yrs with depression and and FALso Im one you look down on.???
you need to pick up your game before you become a complete laughingstock.

Originally Posted by kotuku

gawd a doctor sees you for 15/60 and can form an opinion youre not unstable.
what i dont like about you is youre phraseology -mental went out with lunatic ,asylum etc etc and other derogatory terms-I know im pissing into a norwest wing here and no doubt ill cop a mouthful. Im a psych nurse of 45yrs with depression and and FALso Im one you look down on.???
you need to pick up your game before you become a complete laughingstock.

My brother in law in is under the care of the mental health team at his local hospital for his mental health problems.

And when people notice him talking to himself, he sometimes says "Don't worry. I'm just a little bit mental."

So I really don't care if you consider it a derogatory term. It's a common expression and everyone knows what it means.

In the meantime, try this link. It may help you. Punctuation | English Grammar Guide | EF

Originally Posted by kotuku

gawd a doctor sees you for 15/60 and can form an opinion youre not unstable.
what i dont like about you is youre phraseology -mental went out with lunatic ,asylum etc etc and other derogatory terms-I know im pissing into a norwest wing here and no doubt ill cop a mouthful. Im a psych nurse of 45yrs with depression and and FALso Im one you look down on.???
you need to pick up your game before you become a complete laughingstock.

I think the upside is, I reckon mental health is going to get a shit load more funding, not just because of this but it's becoming more acceptable to talk about the old 'black dog' than ever before. My biggest concern would be, are half the doctors even capable of treating the symptoms? IMO I think not, because they haven't been trained for it..........all I hear is, take 2 of these a day and come back and see me in a month if nothing has changed. I know of 2 people that never got to make it back!

Originally Posted by systolic

My brother in law in is under the care of the mental health team at his local hospital for his mental health problems.

And when people notice him talking to himself, he sometimes says "Don't worry. I'm just a little bit mental."

So I really don't care if you consider it a derogatory term. It's a common expression and everyone knows what it means.

In the meantime, try this link. It may help you. Punctuation | English Grammar Guide | EF

I reckon in todays age calling people 'mental' is a bit like using the "N" (nigger) word!!! It's ok for THEM to reference it, as does your brother in law....I spose that is one upside you get when your mental. @kotuku what is the term that should be used? Is it "mental health issues" ?

More regular licensing will have no effect detecting mental health issues, actually as found in the UK it will have the opposite effect, where firearms holders will avoid visiting doctors, for mild depression, for fear of losing there license.

Originally Posted by Taff

More regular licensing will have no effect detecting mental health issues, actually as found in the UK it will have the opposite effect, where firearms holders will avoid visiting doctors, for mild depression, for fear of losing there license.

Just make a medical certificate from a shrink part of the relicensing process.

No certificate, no guns.

They may not pick up a screw just starting to come loose, but should be able to spot someone who is a danger to themselves or others.