Thread: Warning shot for gun owners

That is a good question Scottrods. I think it would likely come down to the individual rangers interpretation. To me you are not spot lighting

Originally Posted by scottrods

Can I ask a dumb question?

Lets say I'm on public land hunting until last light. On the walk back to hut/tent/bivvy I'm walking with a head torch on, rifle is still loaded in the magazine - am I technically spotlighting or not? Would hate to get rangered for this even though I'm not hunting.

Well are you hunting or not ? If you are not hunting, why don't you just unload the magazine... Seems to me that would be the simple way to avoid any confusion.

I don't think you'd get pinged for that one but is it something worth risking? I'm sure if you wanna be on the safe side, mag out, debomb and remove the bolt.

There was an assertion made on this thread that firearms ownership in New Zealand is a privilege; not a right. Just wondering if anyone can tell me where that came from?

If it was a right wouldn't you be able to do something if they refused to give you a firearms licence?

Its the right of every fit and proper person.
If your not fit and proper you don't have the right.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Its the right of every fit and proper person.
If your not fit and proper you don't have the right.

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So you think it is a right but it only applies to a fit and proper person? Is that some sort of legal restriction ?

Originally Posted by Toby

If it was a right wouldn't you be able to do something if they refused to give you a firearms licence?

Who is "they" ? Do you mean the police ?

Originally Posted by krewzr

So you think it is a right but it only applies to a fit and proper person? Is that some sort of legal restriction ?

Yep just like your right to have consensual sex with who ever you like it still has to be within the law ie not a 5 year old

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Well yeah I guess its the police that say yes or no

I thought your right to have sex with anyone you like was also subject to consent from the other person.. as well as the restrictions such as age limits prescribed by law.

So where can I find this legal restriction that says I have a right to own a firearm if I am a fit and proper person?

I understood that if police refused to give someone a firearms licence then that person could appeal to the District Court or ask for judicial review in the High Court?

If it was a right everyone would have guns

Originally Posted by Toby

If it was a right everyone would have guns

How do you figure that? Surely its a right to have a car or a fishing rod.. not everyone has a car and a fishing rod ? Or do you think having a car and a fishing rod is a privilege?

They are different things, you are just being an anal fuck about it.