Thread: Warning shot for gun owners

Here's a right for you Krewzer

You have the right to speak with a lawyer without delay and in private before deciding whether to answer any questions.

That is a right, I suggest you use it to answer your questions.

Sorry for calling you an anal fuck Krewzer. I got pissed off but am a little calmer now so sorry. Was going to Pm you to say sorry but be just as good here.

Originally Posted by Savage1

Here's a right for you Krewzer

You have the right to speak with a lawyer without delay and in private before deciding whether to answer any questions.

That is a right, I suggest you use it to answer your questions.

That would be good advice except that lawyers can really only give opinions on matters of law... I'm asking for advice on a matter of opinion about a purported privilege; not a matter of law.

I spoke to one of New Zealand's preeminent constitutional lawyers the other day. He told me that the US constitution gave American's the right to keep and bear arms. He also said that there was no corresponding right in New Zealand. It took only two questions to have his mind changed

Originally Posted by Toby

Sorry for calling you an anal fuck Krewzer. I got pissed off but am a little calmer now so sorry. Was going to Pm you to say sorry but be just as good here.

All good.

And what were those two questions?

Originally Posted by Savage1

And what were those two questions?

#1 Does the 2nd amendment grant the right to keep and bear arms?... or does it simply provide a constitutional protection against the infringement of what is recognised as a preexisting right?

#2 If there is no right to possess firearms in New Zealand.. then why is there a law which restricts people from exercising that right, and if that law was repealed , would we need further legislation to reinstate or grant us the right?

How do you figure political ? This was discussion primarily about a purported opinion.. and some peripheral law issues. No mention of politics here ?

There was nothing in relation to NZ constitutional arrangements or the right to bear arms. The discussion was simply about what the legal landscape is in New Zealand in relation to the ownership of firearms; specifically if that is or is not a privilege.

Legislation is law Tussock... politics is what the politicians do.

Originally Posted by krewzr

How do you figure political ? This was discussion primarily about a purported opinion.. and some peripheral law issues. No mention of politics here ?

There was nothing in relation to NZ constitutional arrangements or the right to bear arms. The discussion was simply about what the legal landscape is in New Zealand in relation to the ownership of firearms; specifically if that is or is not a privilege.

Be a shame if Tussock makes you go bye bye

Originally Posted by BRADS

Be a shame if Tussock makes you go bye bye

I would view it as an illustration rather than a shame...

Tussock, could you guys pls do us all a favor and just delete kewzr as a member of this forum.

Richard, you hide behind clever words, fancy legal arguments, but in the end you do nothing but stir shit.

Originally Posted by ebf

Tussock, could you guys pls do us all a favor and just delete kewzr as a member of this forum.

Richard, you hide behind clever words, fancy legal arguments, but in the end you do nothing but stir shit.

I don't hide behind anything EBF.. Everyone knows who I am, where I am and how to get hold of me.

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Originally Posted by krewzr

I don't hide behind anything EBF.. Everyone knows who I am, where I am and how to get hold of me.

and yet you seem to feel compelled to market yourself every couple of months by doing the same old bullshit routine...

Originally Posted by krewzr

#1 Does the 2nd amendment grant the right to keep and bear arms?... or does it simply provide a constitutional protection against the infringement of what is recognised as a preexisting right?

#2 If there is no right to possess firearms in New Zealand.. then why is there a law which restricts people from exercising that right, and if that law was repealed , would we need further legislation to reinstate or grant us the right?

Just out of interest I'd like to know what you came up with.

Originally Posted by ebf

and yet you seem to feel compelled to market yourself every couple of months by doing the same old bullshit routine...

I'm not marketing myself EBF.. I have not offered anything for sale on here. If you think intelligent discussion amounts to bullshit, then simply don't participate; no-one is forcing you. And don't send me whinging PMs.. I'm not interested.