Thread: When will trade me sellers learn

I was under the impression you could reload commercially if you had a dealers license?

Originally Posted by Munsey

I'm trying to find his card and reloading data sheet he supplies , to see the wording of the" certified" reloader. He has had my rifle ,this is a repeat prescription so to speak .

When you collect your perscription can you ask where and how he was certified please??? Or if it is just under a gunsmithing thing. I have those credentials and if so I may be covered.

Originally Posted by Chicken

I was under the impression you could reload commercially if you had a dealers license?

Thats worth investigating.

Edit: Had a mans browse thru the act and could see nothing referring to dealers and reloading?

I beleive that if you dont follow or apply the arms code, they figure that you are not really fit and proper to have a licence as you dont follow general safety guidelines, the Police would probably look to revoke the firearms licence.

Its like storing ammunition, there is no specific offence relating to the security of the ammunition, but if you dont store it properly and safely, the Police will look to revoke the licence. I have seen it done to a couple of people.

I believe the manufacture of ammunition will be covered by the Hazardous Substances and New Organisms Act 1996 (and associated ammendements in 2001, 2005, etc).
Arms Act and Arms Regulations do not cover the manufacture of ammunition, only the sale to licence holders or unlicenced people.

Rushy
I think the full quote deserves airing when it comes to reloading
"Rules are for the obedience of the inexperienced and the guidance of wise men." - Douglas Bader.

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I believe the manufacture of ammunition will be covered by the Hazardous Substances and New Organisms Act 1996 (and associated ammendements in 2001, 2005, etc).
Arms Act and Arms Regulations do not cover the manufacture of ammunition, only the sale to licence holders or unlicenced people.

Got any confirmation on that BF? It would be good to find out how to become compliant, especially with all the butter wouldnt melt in their mouth types that are quick to point the finger around here

No confirmation but I imagine an email to the EPA would get a yes or no. Ammo is considered hazard category 1.4S, safety ammunition.

Cool thanks BT

I know a guy that said he's getting licensed I'll ask what he means by licensed and what's involved etc

Originally Posted by horihunter

I know a guy that said he's getting licensed I'll ask what he means by licensed and what's involved etc

Awesome, thanks HH that will be easier than my blindly fishing thru the web.

NOONE can or will tell you what you need they keep referring you to someone else.
The old arms code used to say you needed a 'special licence' to sell reloaded ammo - however the Police had no idea of this 'special licence'

What I DO know, that you need a dealers licence to manufacture ammo (which is different from reloading - as the components are new)
You also have to comply with EPA, council zoning etc
This is where it gets messy, as depending on what and how much of what you have, certified approved handler licence, hazardous substance location and site test certificate, resource consent etc

We're now sorted for manufacture

So reloading some cartridges for a few mates will not justify getting all that or do you have to have a handler licence?

Originally Posted by R93

So reloading some cartridges for a few mates will not justify getting all that or do you have to have a handler licence?

I spose 'technically' you should, however......

I will get something in writing from the police to cover my ass anyway. I have queried it with them and in several different areas and get the same answer. They dont know and cant see a problem unless it is a large commercial operation.