Thread: Wtf

Sorry guys, I have to disagree with some of the well meant and noble statements in the last few posts. If only we lived in a perfect world.

I work as a psychiatric nurse in the public mental health system. I have a Masters Degree in Mental Health Nursing so feel somewhat qualified to comment, not only on a professional level, but also from personal experience which I alluded to in an earlier post..

I see daily the devastation and complete loss of worth that a member or members of families of victims suffer. It is not so cut and dried. Families of victims become victims themselves and often suffer horrendously. The mind is a complex organism and some people simply cannot cope with a life changing event in their lives. Unfortunately, making a decision to "feel better and move on" is not an option that some people, through no fault of their own, are able to undertake.

Time does ease pain, however the pain will always be there. Just depends on how well an individual can cope with it.

Most people need closure. Justice needs to be not only seen and heard, but also delivered commensurate to the crime. If the families of victims cannot comprehend the decision then their grief will only be compounded. It's a difficult area, one of which I don't have an answer to.

What I do believe though is that if a person wilfully and callously takes the life of another person then they should forfeit their life. An eye for an eye in my ideal just world.

Just saying....

... "commensurate" is the world you used... and apparently to the satisfaction of the person so affected... and you think that would be a perfect outcome?

What about the community of people around the offender who might not feel that the victims subjectivity about what is "commensurate" might not be equitable...?

Do you think that might create ongoing problems for society if we rely on a victims perception of what is commensurate, and expect the state to execute that? What about those innocent people around that offender...will you be working with them as a result of their perception of inequitable treatment as a result of relying on the subjectivity of victims?

Closure is not relevant to the length or type of sentence applied. It is relevant to the ability of the person to reconcile the situation for themselves and the support to do so. People will either achieve that or will never achieve that irrespective of the actual outcomes from the justice system..

Originally Posted by ExPoh75

Sorry guys, I have to disagree with some of the well meant and noble statements in the last few posts. If only we lived in a perfect world.

I work as a psychiatric nurse in the public mental health system. I have a Masters Degree in Mental Health Nursing so feel somewhat qualified to comment, not only on a professional level, but also from personal experience which I alluded to in an earlier post..

I see daily the devastation and complete loss of worth that a member or members of families of victims suffer. It is not so cut and dried. Families of victims become victims themselves and often suffer horrendously. The mind is a complex organism and some people simply cannot cope with a life changing event in their lives. Unfortunately, making a decision to "feel better and move on" is not an option that some people, through no fault of their own, are able to undertake.

Time does ease pain, however the pain will always be there. Just depends on how well an individual can cope with it.

Most people need closure. Justice needs to be not only seen and heard, but also delivered commensurate to the crime. If the families of victims cannot comprehend the decision then their grief will only be compounded. It's a difficult area, one of which I don't have an answer to.

What I do believe though is that if a person wilfully and callously takes the life of another person then they should forfeit their life. An eye for an eye in my ideal just world.

Just saying....

Your apparent objectivity was rather undermined by your last paragraph, and your first post. It seems that closure for you, in your particular circumstances, was dependent on the corporal punishment of the person who caused your father's death.

Your qualifications and professional opinion mean nothing if you can not remain objective.
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