Thread: Wtf

sidney -have you got any bloody idea whatsoever about the realities of case management -youre ratios are fucking laughable .i have communtiy based colleagues who case manage up to 20 persons at any time and frankly theyre run off their bloody feet! jesus wept- to renew a recent quip["allsmoke no hangi!. case management properly executed requires unlimited resources and minute attention to detail ,cause beleive me ,one small oversight and the whole lot willgo down the dunny .been there done that more than once ,and humble pie aint my fuckin meal of choice
number 2 sidney -if a bloody individual does not want to change ,nothing ,i repeat nothing will make em change ,despite all the optimists in this firiggin world holding hands and gently farting on em.
you can quote all the statistics hypotheses etc etc you like but im coming from butt ugly naked unadorned humanity at its lowest point and my own paddling in it for four decades.
gadget I bleive in -i know him ,Ive seen him in action ,and when it comes to good old fashioned plain garden commonsense he has it in spades,unlike a lot who profess to be expert in this subject(that incidentally is not a crack at you OK>

Originally Posted by kotuku

sidney -have you got any bloody idea whatsoever about the realities of case management -youre ratios are fucking laughable .i have communtiy based colleagues who case manage up to 20 persons at any time and frankly theyre run off their bloody feet! jesus wept- to renew a recent quip["allsmoke no hangi!. case management properly executed requires unlimited resources and minute attention to detail ,cause beleive me ,one small oversight and the whole lot willgo down the dunny .been there done that more than once ,and humble pie aint my fuckin meal of choice
number 2 sidney -if a bloody individual does not want to change ,nothing ,i repeat nothing will make em change ,despite all the optimists in this firiggin world holding hands and gently farting on em.
you can quote all the statistics hypotheses etc etc you like but im coming from butt ugly naked unadorned humanity at its lowest point and my own paddling in it for four decades.
gadget I bleive in -i know him ,Ive seen him in action ,and when it comes to good old fashioned plain garden commonsense he has it in spades,unlike a lot who profess to be expert in this subject(that incidentally is not a crack at you OK>

Oh Kotuku.....mate.......if i could get all of that printed on a t-shirt i would mate.....priceless!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by kotuku

sidney -have you got any bloody idea whatsoever about the realities of case management -youre ratios are fucking laughable .i have communtiy based colleagues who case manage up to 20 persons at any time and frankly theyre run off their bloody feet! jesus wept- to renew a recent quip["allsmoke no hangi!. case management properly executed requires unlimited resources and minute attention to detail ,cause beleive me ,one small oversight and the whole lot willgo down the dunny .been there done that more than once ,and humble pie aint my fuckin meal of choice
number 2 sidney -if a bloody individual does not want to change ,nothing ,i repeat nothing will make em change ,despite all the optimists in this firiggin world holding hands and gently farting on em.
you can quote all the statistics hypotheses etc etc you like but im coming from butt ugly naked unadorned humanity at its lowest point and my own paddling in it for four decades.
gadget I bleive in -i know him ,Ive seen him in action ,and when it comes to good old fashioned plain garden commonsense he has it in spades,unlike a lot who profess to be expert in this subject(that incidentally is not a crack at you OK>

Oh please if you are going to get excited you should learn to read first...... you might notice I said per annum... not at once......

2 its not perscriptive, its descriptive... so try not to get your fanny pack knotted...

3 if the average length of sentence is around 6 months (which as I understand it is about correct), for a 20 case load pa, then would have 10 on the go at once.

4 you cannot definitively talk about case load numbers until the amount of workload for each case is defined, and we haven't done that yet have we?

Finally in reference to your obvious change/suitability issues.... are you serious?... that goes without saying... not everyone is suitable nor will be...

Of course the system has to be designed, but we don't work this way in justice yet.... there may some benefits to thinking about the concept though... that is if we can think conceptually rather than focussing on the details which aren't worked out yet...

Can you print that on your t-shirt.....

no im not printing anything on a Tshirt -merely pointing out to your good self that some of your hypotheses are well wide of the mark.its obviously slid home -the tone of your replies and the rising sarcasm suggests to me the emergence of the cunliffe style defence.
lets just lay it to rest eh -its run its course .

Originally Posted by kotuku

sidney -have you got any bloody idea whatsoever about the realities of case management -youre ratios are fucking laughable .i have communtiy based colleagues who case manage up to 20 persons at any time and frankly theyre run off their bloody feet! jesus wept- to renew a recent quip["allsmoke no hangi!. case management properly executed requires unlimited resources and minute attention to detail ,cause beleive me ,one small oversight and the whole lot willgo down the dunny .been there done that more than once ,and humble pie aint my fuckin meal of choice
number 2 sidney -if a bloody individual does not want to change ,nothing ,i repeat nothing will make em change ,despite all the optimists in this firiggin world holding hands and gently farting on em.
you can quote all the statistics hypotheses etc etc you like but im coming from butt ugly naked unadorned humanity at its lowest point and my own paddling in it for four decades.
gadget I bleive in -i know him ,Ive seen him in action ,and when it comes to good old fashioned plain garden commonsense he has it in spades,unlike a lot who profess to be expert in this subject(that incidentally is not a crack at you OK>

As a community case manager I have to agree with you. Some of our case managers have up to 40 clients to look after. The system is so under resourced.

As the old saying goes...you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.