Thread: Wtf

This is the worst thing possible, and I hope Chis Drummer reads this.
He displays a complete lack of self awareness and shouldn’t be allowed near a rifle again. Not even a toy one.
I know him, and he knows me. Others on here will too. I was once on a hunting trip with him, and hunted with him for a day.
He was a disaster waiting to happen.

What he had to say at the inquest was disgraceful.

Man you gotta feel for the parents....1st they lose their son, then the guy who caused it only serves 4 months (pathetic in my opinion) and now he's saying I want my licence back so I can hunt again.....they probably going to inquest for some closure and get kicked in the guts instead!

his surname certainly seems to be quite adequate

I would hate to think that someone like this could be roaming public land with a firearm. An absolute slap in the face for the family. Extremely selfish behaviour at best thinking
its a good idea to go hunting again.

He should be serving a minimum of 5 years for manslaughter.

About a month after the shooting I spoke to a guy who was on a hunt trip with this Dummer. The hunters had divvied up where they were going to go the night before and when setting out to his allotted area the next morning this guy smelled Dummers cigarette smoke in the area where he wasn't meant to be - when caught up with he said he'd changed his mind and thought it wasn't a big deal.

I've heard other rumours about this guy but that's the only one I know that I trust the speaker to be telling true.

I've worked way too hard to get my licenses to have my sport endangered by a dangerously foolish person like Dummer (with his road rage conviction)

To me he's like a recidivist drunk driver on the road - he's had his chances and fucked them up so it's time to take his toys away

Originally Posted by 308

About a month after the shooting I spoke to a guy who was on a hunt trip with this Dummer. The hunters had divvied up where they were going to go the night before and when setting out to his allotted area the next morning this guy smelled Dummers cigarette smoke in the area where he wasn't meant to be - when caught up with he said he'd changed his mind and thought it wasn't a big deal.

I've heard other rumours about this guy but that's the only one I know that I trust the speaker to be telling true.

I've worked way too hard to get my licenses to have my sport endangered by a dangerously foolish person like Dummer (with his road rage conviction)

To me he's like a recidivist drunk driver on the road - he's had his chances and fucked them up so it's time to take his toys away

Thats interesting, I have hunted with Chris just prior to the shooting and he didnt smoke

Never made a mistake, hell I once fired eighty rounds at two of our guys and completely missed them both.

So many rounds, that should be a lifetime without a FAL for me.

Originally Posted by Scribe

Never made a mistake, hell I once fired eighty rounds at two of our guys and completely missed them both.

So many rounds, that should be a lifetime without a FAL for me.

seriously?

Originally Posted by possummatti

seriously?

Yep its a bit of a war-y story but it happened.

Originally Posted by Scribe

Never made a mistake, hell I once fired eighty rounds at two of our guys and completely missed them both.

So many rounds, that should be a lifetime without a FAL for me.

With all due respect i disagree, this guy didnt have other people trying to kill him or his buddies - he didnt identify his target and ended a man's life!

Originally Posted by wsm junkie

With all due respect i disagree, this guy didnt have other people trying to kill him or his buddies - he didnt identify his target and ended a man's life!

Experience has shown me over the years that the more times you go to the well the closer you are to falling in.

It could well be claimed that I never identified my target.

Originally Posted by Scribe

Experience has shown me over the years that the more times you go to the well the closer you are to falling in.

It could well be claimed that I never identified my target.

Thats true but in my view I see your situation as justified - you were in combat and believed that YOUR life was in immediate danger and you acted accordingly, where the extra time took to clearly identify your targets could have cost you big time.
However this guy was hunting deer and the extra time taken to identify his target would at a worst case be a lost animal - big deal, get out and try again.
Just how I see it

Originally Posted by wsm junkie

Thats true but in my view I see your situation as justified - you were in combat and believed that YOUR life was in immediate danger and you acted accordingly, where the extra time took to clearly identify your targets could have cost you big time.
However this guy was hunting deer and the extra time taken to identify his target would at a worst case be a lost animal - big deal, get out and try again.
Just how I see it

yep that's true, but the circumstances were different than how you see it above.

But I have come close to killing two people since then. One myself.

Originally Posted by Scribe

Never made a mistake, hell I once fired eighty rounds at two of our guys and completely missed them both.

So many rounds, that should be a lifetime without a FAL for me.

In what are a Scribe? If it was an arena of war then it did not require you to have an FAL in the first place and as scary as that sounds it would not have been a first time event in the heat of a battle.

Originally Posted by Rushy

In what are a Scribe? If it was an arena of war then it did not require you to have an FAL in the first place and as scary as that sounds it would not have been a first time event in the heat of a battle.

Hello Rushy, Interesting discussion, aye what!!!. I don't know what you are saying in your first sentence. It was the arena of war you are right. And no a FAL was not required.. But I know human nature, if I had have killed those two soldiers people would have sat in Judgement on myself as they a doing here.

What I am trying to say is that if you do anything with a firearm long enough or often enough then one day the cards will fall bad for you and you are just as capable as the next person of killing someone.

Not just with Weapons, Chopper Pilots kill Passengers, Taxi Drivers run over people on pedestrian crossings. There's a whole raft of bad shit waiting to land on your head.